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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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An increase in o2 sensor voltage is RICHER or LEANER?
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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Richer. A "rough" value of .89 at WOT is good.
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Richer. A "rough" value of .89 at WOT is good.
Thanks for clarification. Now, I just changed out my cam. The one I (MSI, thanks) put in is a 216/222 585 on a 116 is very mild and the car has great manners. I can feel the power improvement, but now want to tune.

I use HP Tuners. before I changed the cam, I datalogged it at WOT.
Like you state, I found the o2 sensors running around .905v-.910v w/stock cam. Data was logged several times for verification.

After the cam install, I'm seeing data:
4200-5200: ~0.938v
5200-5500: ~0.929v
5500-6500: ~0.920v.

Ah, work to do... Any ideas for the best peak performance, please post...
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Just got back from tweaking the PE table. The engine really screams at around 890-900mv. I wonder what A/F that equates to?
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Are you using a wide band? I wouldn't use the narrow band O2 for tuning.
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Are you using a wide band? I wouldn't use the narrow band O2 for tuning.
Agreed!! Look at the output signal of a factory O2 below and tell me if you want to tune your motor with it.....

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Agreed!! Look at the output signal of a factory O2 below and tell me if you want to tune your motor with it.....

Its all relative. The car in stock form stayed within 20mv of each pass at WOT. I was able to do the same w/the new cam. Actually works well.
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Just because it’s consistent, doesn’t mean it’s accurate.

Narrowband O2 sensors are only accurate at 0.5v (14.7:1). Higher and lower voltage readings may be consistent but they are not accurate in terms of A/F ratio.
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Originally Posted by MGorman
Just because it’s consistent, doesn’t mean it’s accurate.

Narrowband O2 sensors are only accurate at 0.5v (14.7:1). Higher and lower voltage readings may be consistent but they are not accurate in terms of A/F ratio.

It doesn't matter what the A/F is as I am not using them for A/F. Let me explain. In both my 02 and 03 Z, I datalogged the stock engines many times. In both cases, the engines/02 sensors continually produce 02 voltages that in my opinion were consistent to around 20 millivolts. This voltage is relative and the A/F is irrelevant. The voltage produced is consistent. This voltage gives me a 1:1 correlation w/the [stock A/F] that GM thought made good power and was safe.
I don't really need to know what this A/F is since I trust the car was already making great power stock.

What I already know is that my car runs 12.4:1 at WOT completetly stock. A slight leaning of the engine produces more power which is exactly the relative change I see in voltage and power. IE, it works well.

I had TWO widebands mounted in my rear sensor slots in my 03 Z.
It didn't mean squat. After tweaking power on the dyno, I found the best (RELATIVE) A/F for that meter was 11.7:1 for my car's combo /tune. You can't put every tune in to a neat little wideband box. It doesn't fit. You gotta learn to use all the tools avail to you. This one works great.

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