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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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Went to pass a truck on a two-lane today. Just a moderate pull from low in 3rd (MN6) and at first it pinged quite a bit. I guess the computer took over and retarded the timing. She did pull hard, just didn't remember all the ping.

She gets a steady diet of PREMIUM so I don't know what else to do. Is there a problem with my AE or the fuel?
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might be carboned up time for Sea-foam or other de-carbon trick
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might be carboned up time for Sea-foam or other de-carbon trick


plus some good injector cleaner like Red Line. If that doesn't do it you might need a tune.
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It was happening at WOT. I had it tuned by Scoundrl. He found my LTFT table wasw adding from 6% - 15% more fuel and my spark table was pulling timing. We also found that I had a pre-MAF air leak. He cleared the tables and we sealed the airleak. Now the car screams! We aren't 100% sure why the tables were adding gas and pulling timing but, he suspects the MAF might be dirty. We will look at that as soon as it STOPS RAINING!

Ken did an awesome job tuning my car. I have a stock 03 Coupe, A4 with a VaraRam. Now, from about 30 mph I can stomp the loud pedal and the tires break loose from the 2-3 and the 3-4 shift!!!

Thanks again Ken!!!
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Originally Posted by ALLEGRO
Went to pass a truck on a two-lane today. Just a moderate pull from low in 3rd (MN6) and at first it pinged quite a bit. I guess the computer took over and retarded the timing. She did pull hard, just didn't remember all the ping.

She gets a steady diet of PREMIUM so I don't know what else to do. Is there a problem with my AE or the fuel?
Could be fuel quality or AF error. You need to evaluate the situation with a scan tool. Generating a log that displays your LTFT in your popular load cells will tell you if there are fuel prediction issues, maf error etc. Another issue could be caused by an injector or two or more. Fuel trim is averaged by 4 cylinders on 2 banks. If you have one rich injector and 3 normal the PCM will attempt to average that bank to stoich theoretically leaving 3 cylinders slightly lean.

If it is a fuel octane issue and the high and low octane spark tables have enough spread then the cal should compensate for it as long as the tune was done correctly.

There is also a strong possibility of carbon build up. GM or Delco has a top engine cleaner that works really well. Doing this properly involves sucking that X66 fluid through the intake for a while and then stalling the engine out being careful not to hydraulic anything. (This really should be done by someone with experience) After letting it soak for a bit (1/2 hour or so) restart the vehicle and run it until the exhaust is clear. Then a plug and oil change should be performed to finish off the job.

If you have any further questions please let me know.


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EXCELLENT Reply!!

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We also found that I had a pre-MAF air leak. He cleared the tables and we sealed the airleak.
Just curious......in what way would a PRE-MAF air leak affect the tune??


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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 11:39 PM
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Just curious......in what way would a PRE-MAF air leak affect the tune??


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I'd like to know the answer to that one as well.

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My understanding is that it would give you more of a non-laminar airflow. It's just my best guess though. I am not sure.
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My understanding is that it would give you more of a non-laminar airflow. It's just my best guess though. I am not sure.

That is partially correct, some of the cold air devices actually change the MAF transfer function as the MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR does not directly measure the MASS of air, it INFERS it based upon a calibration table consisting of a parabolic curve where the output signal (frequency in GM's case) = x Grams/sec.

So a leak that allowed for an unstable condition prior to the MAF could affect the output.

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Originally Posted by SBTuner
That is partially correct, some of the cold air devices actually change the MAF transfer function as the MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR does not directly measure the MASS of air, it INFERS it based upon a calibration table consisting of a parabolic curve where the output signal (frequency in GM's case) = x Grams/sec.

So a leak that allowed for an unstable condition prior to the MAF could affect the output.

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Scott

It appears you are pretty knowledgable

Would you please check out this thread and add your opinion:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1550303

Also on LS1 Tech:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613321


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Scott

It appears you are pretty knowledgable

Would you please check out this thread and add your opinion:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1550303



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I took a look and offered what I could read into it...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1557848571

With some additional data there comes an explanation!

Take care,


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