What roll bar do you suggest?
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What roll bar do you suggest?
All,
Interested in forced induction for later this year. Will be getting into a Sparco harness setup and have some reservations about going full on roll bar. Thought about the BK harness bar but that would not let me run NCCC Class 3 stuff. Don't want to be out of Class 1 but the blower would blow it!
What bar do you big boys run? I want something as 'nice' as possible in the car. Not looking to tub it, its a beautiful car and I want this to accent, not dominate the interior look.
What do you suggest? Thanks for your thoughts in advance.
Cassidy
Interested in forced induction for later this year. Will be getting into a Sparco harness setup and have some reservations about going full on roll bar. Thought about the BK harness bar but that would not let me run NCCC Class 3 stuff. Don't want to be out of Class 1 but the blower would blow it!
What bar do you big boys run? I want something as 'nice' as possible in the car. Not looking to tub it, its a beautiful car and I want this to accent, not dominate the interior look.
What do you suggest? Thanks for your thoughts in advance.
Cassidy
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Wolfe has a 20% off sale going on now for all of their stuff.
20% off sale for all their stuff..............
20% off sale for all their stuff..............
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It depends on what type of bar/cage you are looking for. The R-D racing 4 point cross braced bar offers a lot of protection at a reasonable price. http://www.r-dracing.com/stframe1.htm I installed mine in about 7 hours. You can either bolt in or weld. It is a very well constructed unit - powder coated and it fits !! Worth looking into for comparison.
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It depends on what type of bar/cage you are looking for. The R-D racing 4 point cross braced bar offers a lot of protection at a reasonable price. http://www.r-dracing.com/stframe1.htm I installed mine in about 7 hours. You can either bolt in or weld. It is a very well constructed unit - powder coated and it fits !! Worth looking into for comparison.
I'm also looking at AutoPower and Kirk Racing 4 points roll bars.
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So I am guessing it has to be welded in to be legal for NCCC events? Was planning to go that route.
If you had the choice of mild steel or chromoly which would you go for? One is more expensive of course but is it safer? This is one of those "you only need it once" kinda parts that REALLY matters when you need it. Does it pay to get the extra dollar item?
Is one able to allow the seat full range of motion too? Sorry for the questions. I appreciate the input.
Cassidy
If you had the choice of mild steel or chromoly which would you go for? One is more expensive of course but is it safer? This is one of those "you only need it once" kinda parts that REALLY matters when you need it. Does it pay to get the extra dollar item?
Is one able to allow the seat full range of motion too? Sorry for the questions. I appreciate the input.
Cassidy
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Since you live in Northern VA (me too). I highly recommend you talk to Mitch Piper at Piper Motorsports at 44264 Mercure Circle, Unit 130 Sterling, VA 703.996.0353. He makes race approved custom Roll Bars and Cages. He installed my 6-pt Wolfe Race Craft Roll Bar and made me a custom 4-pt Roll Bar for my Celica GT.
If I had to do it all over again - I would have had Mitch install one of his custom Roll Bars in my C5 (but I learned about his shop after I made my purchase). Piper Motorsports has an excellent reputation within the racing community for quality work at a fair price. He's also a race car driver.
If I had to do it all over again - I would have had Mitch install one of his custom Roll Bars in my C5 (but I learned about his shop after I made my purchase). Piper Motorsports has an excellent reputation within the racing community for quality work at a fair price. He's also a race car driver.
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Aloha,
Dig the pic of you in front of turn 7 at Jefferson
Thanks, will do. I will see what he has. I was planning on doing the carpet mod portion myself as I think the word **** might describe my detail level. If its not exactly like I want it I'll go nuts.
Seems there are some that think the bolt method is equal to welding? I can't see how it could be as strong. Interested on thoughts with that too.
Cassidy
Dig the pic of you in front of turn 7 at Jefferson
Thanks, will do. I will see what he has. I was planning on doing the carpet mod portion myself as I think the word **** might describe my detail level. If its not exactly like I want it I'll go nuts.
Seems there are some that think the bolt method is equal to welding? I can't see how it could be as strong. Interested on thoughts with that too.
Cassidy
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The advantage of Chrome Moly over a regular carbon steel roll bar is that the moly lets you run a smaller schedule (thickness) on the pipe, which will save some weight to get the same (or better) strength. It's a little bit different to weld, but a good chassis shop could easily handle it. I'd ask if they TIG it in or MIG it. I don't even know if a MIG welded bar is legal, but I'd ask anyway just to make sure. If it were my car and butt on the line, I'd spring for the moly one, but it's easy for me to spend your money!
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Aloha,
Dig the pic of you in front of turn 7 at Jefferson
Thanks, will do. I will see what he has. I was planning on doing the carpet mod portion myself as I think the word **** might describe my detail level. If its not exactly like I want it I'll go nuts.
Seems there are some that think the bolt method is equal to welding? I can't see how it could be as strong. Interested on thoughts with that too.
Cassidy
Dig the pic of you in front of turn 7 at Jefferson
Thanks, will do. I will see what he has. I was planning on doing the carpet mod portion myself as I think the word **** might describe my detail level. If its not exactly like I want it I'll go nuts.
Seems there are some that think the bolt method is equal to welding? I can't see how it could be as strong. Interested on thoughts with that too.
Cassidy
The benefit of the bolt-in roll bar is that its easy to remove when you're ready to sell your car. I have the 6-point black Chrome Moly bolt-in with removable door bars and sleeves from Wolfe and am thinking about getting a weld-in roll cage fabricated by Piper since I will eventually transform my C5 to a race car. Wolfe has a 20% sale, which equates to $800 (reg. $1000) plus shipping, I can sell you mine for $700 (no shipping required), if you're interested.
Mike
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Some sanctions don't allow bolt-in roll bars. You might want to check with the one that you're racing in.
Of course, the weld-in one is like VISA, it's accepted everywhere. I agree whole heartedly in that if you're going to do it, do it right the first time! It's MUCH cheaper in the end.
Good Luck!
Of course, the weld-in one is like VISA, it's accepted everywhere. I agree whole heartedly in that if you're going to do it, do it right the first time! It's MUCH cheaper in the end.
Good Luck!
