E-Brake shoes retaining spring
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
E-Brake shoes retaining spring
Guess the forum had a database fart on the last one which turned into two.
Anyway, had a spring pop out on me. Has anyone attempted to put it back in without removing the hub? Is it possible? I'm at the office and kinda don't feel like working so I'm thinking of stuff to post.
I don't mind pulling the hub but was wondering if it is possible to put back without.
Anyway, had a spring pop out on me. Has anyone attempted to put it back in without removing the hub? Is it possible? I'm at the office and kinda don't feel like working so I'm thinking of stuff to post.
I don't mind pulling the hub but was wondering if it is possible to put back without.
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Seems to me I was reading up in the last week or so about ADJUSTING the e-brake, and the article mentioned that the hub HAD TO be REMOVED to install or access the spring - in a way, I think I had the feeling that adjusting the Ebrake in any fashion (other than driving in reverse and pulling up on the ebrake handle which some say works, others say doesn't work) required that the hub be removed.
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I'm unable to delete, edit, or do anything with them. I've request a mod to take them down.
I actually have the rotor off right now, so what do you do, pivot the shoes out and try to get the spring in there? If I rembember right, there is a very minimal gap between the shoe and the hub. Sorry for what may be stupid questions but I have not had 5 mins to even look at it. I plan on doing it when I get home tonight.
I actually have the rotor off right now, so what do you do, pivot the shoes out and try to get the spring in there? If I rembember right, there is a very minimal gap between the shoe and the hub. Sorry for what may be stupid questions but I have not had 5 mins to even look at it. I plan on doing it when I get home tonight.
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Guess the forum had a database fart on the last one which turned into two.
Anyway, had a spring pop out on me. Has anyone attempted to put it back in without removing the hub? Is it possible? I'm at the office and kinda don't feel like working so I'm thinking of stuff to post. I don't mind pulling the hub but was wondering if it is possible to put back without.
Anyway, had a spring pop out on me. Has anyone attempted to put it back in without removing the hub? Is it possible? I'm at the office and kinda don't feel like working so I'm thinking of stuff to post.
I don't mind pulling the hub but was wondering if it is possible to put back without.My hands are all cut up from doing just this on Saturday. Here's what I did: Put the ends on the shoe in place on the adjuster. Slip the spring inside the top of the shoe. Using a screw driver I was able to attached the top of the spring holding the shoe at and angle. I then attached the bottom spring mount on the backing plate to the spring. Again using a screw driver pry the spring up into the shoe. Both the heel of the spring and then end.
It's tight work but can be done. It took me a couple of minutes to do.
Good luck.
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With the rotor off ...
The spring ends go into holes that are in the back plate. There are two clips that the spring also has to go into/under. The "top" of the spring simply sits inside the ebrake shoe.
The normal process to remove the shoe to replace it is to:
1) Rotate the park brake adjuster nut until the bolt is in the closed position.
2) Remove the retaining spring
3) Remove the shoe by spreading it slightly while pulling the shoe from the actuator.
So, as you can see ... in reverse ... (installing)
1) Put shoe over actuator (which is alrady done)
2) Install the spring (This you need to do)
3) Rotate the adjuster nut to adjust the brake (Only need to do this if the brake needs adjusting )
4) Re-install rotor
5) Pop open a can/bottle of your favorite refreshment
HTH
The spring ends go into holes that are in the back plate. There are two clips that the spring also has to go into/under. The "top" of the spring simply sits inside the ebrake shoe.
The normal process to remove the shoe to replace it is to:
1) Rotate the park brake adjuster nut until the bolt is in the closed position.
2) Remove the retaining spring
3) Remove the shoe by spreading it slightly while pulling the shoe from the actuator.
So, as you can see ... in reverse ... (installing)
1) Put shoe over actuator (which is alrady done)
2) Install the spring (This you need to do)
3) Rotate the adjuster nut to adjust the brake (Only need to do this if the brake needs adjusting )
4) Re-install rotor
5) Pop open a can/bottle of your favorite refreshment
HTH
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I'm from New Orleans, #5 is always the FIRST thing to do (when working on your own car).
Thanks for the help ya'll!
Thanks for the help ya'll!
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IT SUCKS to say the least. I lost one when I was trying to get the car ready for the track. I had to walk away from it a few times otherwise I would have killed someone.
If you think about what has to be done it really is not too bad. Of course the rotor has to be off, but chances are you were removing the rotor anyway.
If I remember correctly I set the the top part of the spring around the little lip and then used a ice pick in the hole at the top to hold it in place,. I then used a pick with a hook to pull the bottom part and slide it around the other lip.
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I know what you are talking about. I have a sledgehammer for times like this. Typically I'll walk away from the car, go inside find something like a clock radio or my wife's hair dryer and go to town. Sometimes you don't even need the hammer. There is great satisfaction in swing around an appliance by the power cord and letting it rip on the driveway. I try to pick up cheap appliances on Ebay and keep them in a box at the garage corner just for this purpose. Toasters are great too!
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I know what you are talking about. I have a sledgehammer for times like this. Typically I'll walk away from the car, go inside find something like a clock radio or my wife's hair dryer and go to town. Sometimes you don't even need the hammer. There is great satisfaction in swing around an appliance by the power cord and letting it rip on the driveway. I try to pick up cheap appliances on Ebay and keep them in a box at the garage corner just for this purpose. Toasters are great too!
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Don't! VCRs are great! Also, don't throw away any broken counter style microwaves.
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No sweat! Took about 30 seconds. I pivoted the shoes out a little, slipped the spring in and carefully pushed the shoe back over the hub. While holding a light with my teeth, I put one of the clips on, then put the other. The opposite one then popped off, so I put it back, held it in place with another screwdriver and then tried popping the other one on with another screwdriver. Kind of a pain to line it up with the other screwdriver because it wants to slip off. No problem, have grinder, will travel. Got an old screwdriver and invented a "E-Brake retainer spring installation tool". In other words, I took the screwdriver and cut a V in the blade and popped the spring right on. Thanks for the replies today!
So, how about putting the rotor back on if it doesn't want to fit over the shoes? I'm gonna run to the parts store to pick up some more brake cleaner and will put them back on when I get back. Just tap it on with a rubber mallet? Will the star gear compress them a little?
Thanks for the replies today!So, how about putting the rotor back on if it doesn't want to fit over the shoes? I'm gonna run to the parts store to pick up some more brake cleaner and will put them back on when I get back. Just tap it on with a rubber mallet? Will the star gear compress them a little?
