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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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I've had my 2000 six speed for little over a month. Just before I bought it, the dealer put four new tires on the car.

Not knowing much about Corvettes at the time (I only know a little more now), I didn't pay much attention to this message.

I read what the owner's manual has to say about it.

But is there a way for me to turn the message off? Can I troubleshoot it, or do I have to go to a shop?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Did you try hitting the reset button to turn it off? It will come back when you start up again. After 7 years i would say the batteries are dead. Assuming the dealer did not remove them when they put on the new tires.
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if they didn't put the wheels in the same positions on the car after the tire change you may need to reprogram the tps. search on this site for how to program tps(tire pressure sensors). not too difficult. then, if they still do not work, it is probably the battery on each one that does not report. cost about $80. there is a dealer on this site but i can't remember name. i'll look it up and let you now if someone else doesn't tell you.

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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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Did you try hitting the reset button to turn it off? It will come back when you start up again. After 7 years i would say the batteries are dead. Assuming the dealer did not remove them when they put on the new tires.
I started up the car. Then, when I saw the message, I hit the reset button. The message went away and the odometer reading came up. And then, when I turned the car off, the message came up again. Does this make sense? Thanks for your tips.

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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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if they didn't put the wheels in the same positions on the car after the tire change you may need to reprogram the tps. search on this site for how to program tps(tire pressure sensors). not too difficult. then, if they still do not work, it is probably the battery on each one that does not report. cost about $80. there is a dealer on this site but i can't remember name. i'll look it up and let you now if someone else doesn't tell you.

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Thanks for this. I thought it might be something like that. I'll search for that information. If it's the battery on each one, would that be something I could handle myself?
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have to go to tire place to have them replace the monitor which you can buy from places on this site. i guess you could replace yourself if you want to take the tire off the rim and then rebalance. i went to ntb.

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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Exactly what does the message say?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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I also have a 2000, and the RF sensor began acting up. As they were already seven, and I was getting two new rear tires, I just bit the bullet and bought four, then paid the shop to break down the front two tires and put the new sensors in. Total, with shipping, was $348, from Fichtner Chevrolet, one of our supporting vendors, in December, 2006.

I'm sure other vendors can help also.

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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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I have the same problem and orderd a new sensor and had it installed ont the left rear whic was the sensor that the dash indicated was bad. Took it down the road and had same problem and found out that the sensors had been moved around on the wheels from the last tire guy and now i have no idea what sensor is realy bad. Got to love that reset button
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Some early C5's have issues with the reciever flaking out when it's below 50*F. When it's warm, everything is fine. You may notice a problem with the key fob operation as well.

Switching the wheel positions should not cause an error. It would just report the wrong tire as flat.

Check the DIC readout to see what pressures are reported.

Regardless:

Attempt to reprogram the sensors and see what happens.

Take it for a long drive on the highway.

The sensors ARE getting old. The batteries are not designed to be replaced. I can't see wasting time with anything but new ones. Replace all four if you are going to replace any.

Many people just hit reset...
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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the service tire monitor message can come on for a whole bunch of reasons but i would suggest reprogramming as a start. i believe the tire monitor reports to the receiver next to each wheel so it knows what tire is where. i doubt that it would continue to report lf if the tire is on the rr. i was more thinking that changing rotation might have a negative effect on the monitor and cause it to malfunction. it seemed to happen on my 99 but in retrospect, either the tire changer bumped it or the battery just finally gave out. me and ntb couldn't tell for sure so they split the cost of a sensor with me. they sure are great people to deal with. will always work with you - at least that is my experience. there are also less expensive monitors out there. i gave 80 each for mine. check gmpartshouse.com (i think)



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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Uptospeed
I've had my 2000 six speed for little over a month. Just before I bought it, the dealer put four new tires on the car.

Not knowing much about Corvettes at the time (I only know a little more now), I didn't pay much attention to this message.

I read what the owner's manual has to say about it.

But is there a way for me to turn the message off? Can I troubleshoot it, or do I have to go to a shop?
Search the tech forum for tire sensor programming or "learn" as the process is called. You'll need a strong magnet. You can buy three suitable magnets for less than $4 at Ace or similar hardware stores. The ones I bought are about 3/4" diameter. Some have used speaker magnets. You want a rare earth magnet which may be identified also as a neodymium magnet.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ghlight=magnet
https://www.corvetteforum.com/techtip...D=77&TopicID=1

If this doesn't solve the problem, my guess is the tire installer broke the sensor(s). It apparently happens frequently based on posts here. I had 4 tires installed, got the DIC message, back to the tire dealer "oh no, no way we broke the sensor". Break the tire down, big scrape/gash in the side of the sensor. Oops. New sensor. Works fine. Thank yuh vurry much.

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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bluvette79
i believe the tire monitor reports to the receiver next to each wheel so it knows what tire is where. i doubt that it would continue to report lf if the tire is on the rr.
You'd be wrong. There is no reciever next to each wheel. When you program the sensors, it teaches the reciever which sensor is where.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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thanks tony for correcting me. i guess each tps transmits a unique code. what i cant figure out is that when i could not program the right rear, i moved to the left rear and tripped it with a magnet and it reported left rear. since i moved the tires and skipped a sensor in the rotation, how did it know that the code was coming from the left rear if it did not have a receiver/transmitter at that position?

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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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If one sensor is bad, it can screw up the whole operation. My other 3 sensors were frozen on the DIC and never changed readings until I replaced the one bad sensor. Now all is well.
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Norris
Exactly what does the message say?
I'll check it and get back to you shortly.
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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After I replaced the batteries in my sensors, I trained all 4 sensors from the driver's seat verifying they all worked, marked each one as to their trained position, and then took them down to the tire store to have them installed. I just had to make sure that each wheel went back on in the correct location. As soon as I hit 20 MPH all the sensors started working like a champ.
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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good job. the forum has saved my hindquarters several times!


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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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The receiver for the tire pressure sensors & the FOB's is in the area where the drivers rear stereo speaker is. If you remove that plastic cover, you will see a module inside there. It is the RFA module. Your best bet is to read the DTC codes that are stored in the DIC and post them. That will give us a little better chance of troubleshooting correctly. If your FOBs are working normally the RFA is most likely working properly.

You can change out a TPS without dis-mounting the tire off the rim. All you need to do is break the bead, push it down, remove the old sensor, install the new one and re inflate the tire. You shouldn't even need to re balance the tire.

Here is the method for reading your own DTC codes.

This is the absolute best C5 Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) web site!!!

http://www.corvettedoctor.com/Code_Main.html
http://www.corvettedoctor.com/index.html

www.corvettedoctor.com

Go to “technical data base” and then to “Corvette ECM Computer Codes”. Then select your year car. Read the instructions and then scroll down to the "READ MORE" window to view the code definitions.\

Here is another very good site:

http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_cod...d-ii-codes.php

Make sure to include the H or C suffix!!



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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 12:33 AM
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Tire Pressure Monitoring Sensor Programming

The Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) system interfaces with the Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) through the serial data line. Once the program mode is accessed through the IPC, each sensor's unique identification code can be programmed into the receiver's memory. Each sensor must transmit the unique code in the proper sequence. A magnet must be held close to the sensor in order to force the sensor to transmit the identification code. The IPC will display a message as each sensor is programmed, and when to proceed to the next sensor for programming. The receiver also sends a message to the BCM to sound the horn one time, indicating that the sensor properly transmitted an identification code. If the programming sequence is cancelled before any sensor is programmed, or if the vehicle's battery is disconnected, the receiver will remember all current identification codes. As soon as the receiver learns the first sensor identification code, all previously stored codes are erased from the receiver's memory.

J 41760 Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) Programming Tool.

Tool required (any medium strength magnet, U or Disk type)

1. Turn the ignition to ON.
2. Press the RESET button in order to clear any IPC display warning messages.
3. Press and release the OPTIONS button on the DIC to scroll through the display options until the IPC display is blank.
4. Press and hold the DIC RESET button for 3 seconds.
Notice: Refer to Body Control Module (BCM) Programming/RPO Configuration in Cautions and Notices.
5. Press the OPTIONS button again until the TIRE TRAINING message appears.
6. Press the RESET button until the IPC LEARN L FRONT TIRE message appears in order to begin
the programming sequence.
7. Install the J 41760 Tire Pressure Programming Tool over the left front valve stem.
8. The horn will sound, indicating the left front TPM sensor is programmed.
9. When the horn sounds, proceed to program the next TPM sensor in the following order as directed
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- LEARN R FRONT TIRE
- LEARN R REAR TIRE
- LEARN L REAR TIRE
Programming Cancellation
1. The programming mode will be cancelled if any of the following conditions are met: - The program mode is exited through the DIC.
- The ignition is turned to OFF.
- All four sensors have been programmed.
- The TPM system has been in the program mode for longer than 2 minutes and no sensors
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2. If the program mode is cancelled with less than four codes stored, the receiver will only accept the codes programmed up to that point.
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