C5 HID projection headlight system
Le Mans Master
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a few more pics for you!
Vette-HID DOT legal projector kit (same as tbyrne and others)
here's a pic of the illegal "bulb swap" HID kit that won't pass inspection.
Vette-HID DOT legal projector kit (same as tbyrne and others)
here's a pic of the illegal "bulb swap" HID kit that won't pass inspection.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
[QUOTE=EHS;1558836564]BS
Here -- read it from SEMA (you do know who they are?):
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?id=54983
NHTSA Lighting Enforcement: The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s (NHTSA) enforcement division is targeting HID conversion kits and replacement combination equipment (headlamps or taillamps) that do not have all required lighting functions. The agency has concluded that it is impossible to produce HID conversion kits (converting halogen lights to HID) that would be compliant with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108. NHTSA has issued at least two letters of interpretation that serve as notice to the industry. NHTSA believes this equipment presents a safety risk to the public since the kits can be expected to produce excessive glare to oncoming motorists and others. The noncompliant kits frequently include an HID bulb, ballast, igniter, relay and wiring-harness adapters. NHTSA is also seeking to identify replacement front or rear combination lighting equipment that have missing functions (reflector, amber or red light, etc.), no DOT marking, or mismarked wattage.
Of course I know who what the Specialty Equipment Market Association is. Hell, I've been to their show. The NHTSA code is from like 30 years ago and has a lot to do with the auto makers and aftermarket parts invading. But your right..it is a law and thats why I wouldn't try the high blues and purple colors to bring that attention. The conversion kits have gotten a lot better over the past 6-7 years. I just want to be able to see the road and with the kit I have they don't interfear with the other drivers vision. I've been the other driver and tested this myself when I first got them and was satisfied.
Here's a link showing SEMA supporting the product so Oh Well.
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome...&zw=HID+lights
Here -- read it from SEMA (you do know who they are?):
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?id=54983
NHTSA Lighting Enforcement: The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s (NHTSA) enforcement division is targeting HID conversion kits and replacement combination equipment (headlamps or taillamps) that do not have all required lighting functions. The agency has concluded that it is impossible to produce HID conversion kits (converting halogen lights to HID) that would be compliant with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108. NHTSA has issued at least two letters of interpretation that serve as notice to the industry. NHTSA believes this equipment presents a safety risk to the public since the kits can be expected to produce excessive glare to oncoming motorists and others. The noncompliant kits frequently include an HID bulb, ballast, igniter, relay and wiring-harness adapters. NHTSA is also seeking to identify replacement front or rear combination lighting equipment that have missing functions (reflector, amber or red light, etc.), no DOT marking, or mismarked wattage.
Of course I know who what the Specialty Equipment Market Association is. Hell, I've been to their show. The NHTSA code is from like 30 years ago and has a lot to do with the auto makers and aftermarket parts invading. But your right..it is a law and thats why I wouldn't try the high blues and purple colors to bring that attention. The conversion kits have gotten a lot better over the past 6-7 years. I just want to be able to see the road and with the kit I have they don't interfear with the other drivers vision. I've been the other driver and tested this myself when I first got them and was satisfied.
Here's a link showing SEMA supporting the product so Oh Well.
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome...&zw=HID+lights
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I think its unreasonable to ask $1000 for a set of projector housings and a $200-$300 DS2 type setup, I'd much rather take my $200 kit and just angle them down a little so as to cut out a lot of glare.
There should be cheep projector pop up housings available for the C5, its just a box with a lense in it! I've seen similar ones go for as low as $100 a set for plastic ones with a lense and cutoff for other cars, why dont they sell them for the C5?
There should be cheep projector pop up housings available for the C5, its just a box with a lense in it! I've seen similar ones go for as low as $100 a set for plastic ones with a lense and cutoff for other cars, why dont they sell them for the C5?
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I think its unreasonable to ask $1000 for a set of projector housings and a $200-$300 DS2 type setup, I'd much rather take my $200 kit and just angle them down a little so as to cut out a lot of glare.
There should be cheep projector pop up housings available for the C5, its just a box with a lense in it! I've seen similar ones go for as low as $100 a set for plastic ones with a lense and cutoff for other cars, why dont they sell them for the C5?
There should be cheep projector pop up housings available for the C5, its just a box with a lense in it! I've seen similar ones go for as low as $100 a set for plastic ones with a lense and cutoff for other cars, why dont they sell them for the C5?
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I think its unreasonable to ask $1000 for a set of projector housings and a $200-$300 DS2 type setup, I'd much rather take my $200 kit and just angle them down a little so as to cut out a lot of glare.
There should be cheep projector pop up housings available for the C5, its just a box with a lense in it! I've seen similar ones go for as low as $100 a set for plastic ones with a lense and cutoff for other cars, why dont they sell them for the C5?
There should be cheep projector pop up housings available for the C5, its just a box with a lense in it! I've seen similar ones go for as low as $100 a set for plastic ones with a lense and cutoff for other cars, why dont they sell them for the C5?
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BS
Here -- read it from SEMA (you do know who they are?):
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?id=54983
NHTSA Lighting Enforcement: The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s (NHTSA) enforcement division is targeting HID conversion kits and replacement combination equipment (headlamps or taillamps) that do not have all required lighting functions. The agency has concluded that it is impossible to produce HID conversion kits (converting halogen lights to HID) that would be compliant with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108. NHTSA has issued at least two letters of interpretation that serve as notice to the industry. NHTSA believes this equipment presents a safety risk to the public since the kits can be expected to produce excessive glare to oncoming motorists and others. The noncompliant kits frequently include an HID bulb, ballast, igniter, relay and wiring-harness adapters. NHTSA is also seeking to identify replacement front or rear combination lighting equipment that have missing functions (reflector, amber or red light, etc.), no DOT marking, or mismarked wattage.
Of course I know who what the Specialty Equipment Market Association is. Hell, I've been to their show. The NHTSA code is from like 30 years ago and has a lot to do with the auto makers and aftermarket parts invading. But your right..it is a law and thats why I wouldn't try the high blues and purple colors to bring that attention. The conversion kits have gotten a lot better over the past 6-7 years. I just want to be able to see the road and with the kit I have they don't interfear with the other drivers vision. I've been the other driver and tested this myself when I first got them and was satisfied.
Here's a link showing SEMA supporting the product so Oh Well.
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome...&zw=HID+lights
Here -- read it from SEMA (you do know who they are?):
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?id=54983
NHTSA Lighting Enforcement: The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s (NHTSA) enforcement division is targeting HID conversion kits and replacement combination equipment (headlamps or taillamps) that do not have all required lighting functions. The agency has concluded that it is impossible to produce HID conversion kits (converting halogen lights to HID) that would be compliant with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108. NHTSA has issued at least two letters of interpretation that serve as notice to the industry. NHTSA believes this equipment presents a safety risk to the public since the kits can be expected to produce excessive glare to oncoming motorists and others. The noncompliant kits frequently include an HID bulb, ballast, igniter, relay and wiring-harness adapters. NHTSA is also seeking to identify replacement front or rear combination lighting equipment that have missing functions (reflector, amber or red light, etc.), no DOT marking, or mismarked wattage.
Of course I know who what the Specialty Equipment Market Association is. Hell, I've been to their show. The NHTSA code is from like 30 years ago and has a lot to do with the auto makers and aftermarket parts invading. But your right..it is a law and thats why I wouldn't try the high blues and purple colors to bring that attention. The conversion kits have gotten a lot better over the past 6-7 years. I just want to be able to see the road and with the kit I have they don't interfear with the other drivers vision. I've been the other driver and tested this myself when I first got them and was satisfied.
Here's a link showing SEMA supporting the product so Oh Well.
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome...&zw=HID+lights
a 6000k HID kit is blue, I "had" a 6000k bulb swap HID kit in the euro housings, don't try to tell me that they don't have a blue tint to them.
the factory C6 HID headlights and the aftermarket projector HID housings use the same 4300k bulb.
and they're definitely not blue.
they don't make a "cheep" projector housing because the HID projectors are not "cheep" (cheap)!
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
I doubt that all of the kits out there have the same colors that the charts say they are. Speaking from seeing several of NTRBL33's kits on cars his listed 6000k is on the upper scale of white, like LED white. I can't see any blue tint - but thats me. Now his 8000k has a blue tint and the 4300k have more original slight yellow tint.
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I doubt that all of the kits out there have the same colors that the charts say they are. Speaking from seeing several of NTRBL33's kits on cars his listed 6000k is on the upper scale of white, like LED white. I can't see any blue tint - but thats me. Now his 8000k has a blue tint and the 4300k have more original slight yellow tint.
4300k is as close to the color sunlight as you can get. they will produce the best light, the blue tinted light is misleading you into thinking that you're seeing more.
do some reading on HID and you will "see".
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Of course I know who what the Specialty Equipment Market Association is. Hell, I've been to their show. The NHTSA code is from like 30 years ago and has a lot to do with the auto makers and aftermarket parts invading. But your right..it is a law and thats why I wouldn't try the high blues and purple colors to bring that attention. The conversion kits have gotten a lot better over the past 6-7 years. I just want to be able to see the road and with the kit I have they don't interfear with the other drivers vision. I've been the other driver and tested this myself when I first got them and was satisfied.
Those are terrific shots that RPOZ4Z posted above -- best I've ever seen.
Look at the difference on the light cut-off. One blinds oncoming traffic, the other doesn't.
That's why yours are illegal, and his aren't.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Well that's why I needed the better light...I can't see for S*it! Maybe my 6000k is not 6000k and the chinaman put the wrong sticker on the bulb case. Your are correct sir, the 4300 is as close to noontime sunlight but I chose the 6000k for my own personal reason.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
I know that their "technically illegal" but so is straight pipes and blacked out tail lights! Have you seen my lights, I have posted pictures and even a video that show that they haven't shown glares into drivers of oncoming traffic. Products and technology do improve and I think these HID bulb swaps have over the past years because of the same stuff your talking about.
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Then don't buy it! Ever check out how much OEM HID's cost (housing and a..?) When I get HID's I'll get this setup. I'm not gonna settle for the cheap "replace the bulb universal style" setup. HID's do not work well in non-projector housings. Thus the NHTSA link.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Wow, for someone to list an occupation in their profile as "car theft and drug dealer" I would think you wouldn't care about illegal light bulbs.
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'11
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1558835746
And as far as the cut off for the HID's. One of buds is furious w/ the lights on his C6 because of the cut off. He was driving through the mountains on the way back from his NCM delivery and found it diffucult to follow the road down hill's and through turns because the cut off limited and his lights.
You may call my product "cheap". I beg to differ. It is low cost was to have HID and it is very functional. Technology has come a long way. We started this project last summer and made sure that the product I'm selling works very well in the C5.
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These people seem to think my "cheap" kit works pretty well
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1558835746
And as far as the cut off for the HID's. One of buds is furious w/ the lights on his C6 because of the cut off. He was driving through the mountains on the way back from his NCM delivery and found it diffucult to follow the road down hill's and through turns because the cut off limited and his lights.
You may call my product "cheap". I beg to differ. It is low cost was to have HID and it is very functional. Technology has come a long way. We started this project last summer and made sure that the product I'm selling works very well in the C5.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1558835746
And as far as the cut off for the HID's. One of buds is furious w/ the lights on his C6 because of the cut off. He was driving through the mountains on the way back from his NCM delivery and found it diffucult to follow the road down hill's and through turns because the cut off limited and his lights.
You may call my product "cheap". I beg to differ. It is low cost was to have HID and it is very functional. Technology has come a long way. We started this project last summer and made sure that the product I'm selling works very well in the C5.
of course you're not going to call it "cheap".
you're selling them!
but they are still not DOT legal for safety reasons.
I had the same type kit in my euro T84 housings, the technology of these kits has not changed from when I had mine 2 years ago.
the electronics in the ballast may be smaller, but the bulbs still work the same way.
you're right about them being much brighter than regular halogen bulbs, they are!
and here's what you will wind up with....
lots of glare to oncoming traffic, pics don't lie...
plus, look at all of the light in front of the car, it's misleading you into thinking that you can see better.
the stock headlight housings cannot focus all of the extra light down the road where it's really needed, it just throws light everywhere.
another problem is highbeams, are you using the stock halogen highbeam bulbs?
are the HIDs turning off when the highbeams are turned on?
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These people seem to think my "cheap" kit works pretty well
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1558835746
And as far as the cut off for the HID's. One of buds is furious w/ the lights on his C6 because of the cut off. He was driving through the mountains on the way back from his NCM delivery and found it diffucult to follow the road down hill's and through turns because the cut off limited and his lights.
You may call my product "cheap". I beg to differ. It is low cost was to have HID and it is very functional. Technology has come a long way. We started this project last summer and made sure that the product I'm selling works very well in the C5.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1558835746
And as far as the cut off for the HID's. One of buds is furious w/ the lights on his C6 because of the cut off. He was driving through the mountains on the way back from his NCM delivery and found it diffucult to follow the road down hill's and through turns because the cut off limited and his lights.
You may call my product "cheap". I beg to differ. It is low cost was to have HID and it is very functional. Technology has come a long way. We started this project last summer and made sure that the product I'm selling works very well in the C5.
Yes, there is a considerable price difference between your system and the real projection system. Cheap is a relative term, and it does carry a negative stigma to it. However, if yours is 1/3 the price of the projector system, that is cheap. Perhaps "inexpensive" is less offensive?
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... And as far as the cut off for the HID's. One of buds is furious w/ the lights on his C6 because of the cut off. He was driving through the mountains on the way back from his NCM delivery and found it diffucult to follow the road down hill's and through turns because the cut off limited and his lights....
He can read about it in them C6 manual when he gets around to it -- it's generally located like so:
