Turn off tire pressure mon. system?

Feb 28, 2007 | 10:26 PM

#21

Y2Kvert4me

Race Director

I dunno....my banded/epoxied sensors have worked perfectly for the last 4 years, 45k miles and in the last tire change, were still rock solid and securely attached

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Feb 28, 2007 | 10:37 PM

#22

NYCHASM

Race Director

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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me

I dunno....my banded/epoxied sensors have worked perfectly for the last 4 years, 45k miles and in the last tire change, were still rock solid and securely attached

Thanks for your response. You are just the guy I need to talk to. I'll be getting a PM off to you soon.

Charlie

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Mar 5, 2007 | 07:31 PM

#23

02HREBlue

Burning Brakes

Believe what you may. After talking with several tuners including LPE many have abandoned such banded sensors/epoxy for exactly the reasons I have stated. Everyone has their biases and exceptions for any opinion. This is reverse engineering at its best. The sensors were never designed to be used with bands, nor for any matter epoxy. Manufacturers need almost no reason to void any warranty for doing such odd things to your wheels. If you want to do it go ahead and risk it. When your sensor stops working, have fun getting it off. If you have very expensive wheels, no matter how careful the technician, they will eventually get damaged or scratched, so how much do you want to risk it? The sensors are also notoriously innaccurate from experience at many times in their lifespan, and are a true pain in the ***.

Show me ONE wheel manufacturer that says you should use epoxy on their wheels for sensor placement and I will admit I am wrong, but it is extremely unlikely you can show me such proof.

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Mar 5, 2007 | 09:12 PM

#24

gpotski

Race Director

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Originally Posted by jarsdad1

I may be wrong here, but if you have non run-flats, wouldn't you want to know there was a tire pressure problem before you were on the side of a road at 3am? I would put the sensors in. My $.02.

I am switching to GY GS-D3's and got 4 new TPMs from Gene Culley for my 2004 Coupe...for about $154 shipped. Go for it.

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Mar 5, 2007 | 10:10 PM

#25

zozmanZ06

Instructor

The Future Is Soon

Install the TPM sensors and let them work for you. I put them on my Z06. For safety sake, that option is really one good reason to have them. For the 2001-2004 cars, that technology is already present in your car. All new cars will have them beginning in the 2008 model year. It just makes good sense.

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Mar 5, 2007 | 10:24 PM

#26

Y2Kvert4me

Race Director

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Originally Posted by 02HREBlue

Show me ONE wheel manufacturer that says you should use epoxy on their wheels for sensor placement and I will admit I am wrong, but it is extremely unlikely you can show me such proof.

Show me ONE wheel manufacturer that will cover marks/scratches from tire installation.

Guess you shouldn't use tires either.

Seriously, dude.... why would any wheel manufacturer expressly imply anything about sensors, tires, valvestems, etc. None of that has anything to do with their wheel warranty. They warrant for their own manufacturing defects, not what you may do to them after.

If you want to use sensors, then use them. If those custom wheels can't accept a stem mounted configuration, then do what ya gotta do. Epoxy/bands have proven to work just fine. If you don't like it, then don't do it...but don't profess to others what they should or shouldn't do, just because YOU don't care for it.

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Mar 5, 2007 | 10:25 PM

#27

NYCHASM

Race Director

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Originally Posted by 02HREBlue

What have "tuners" got to do with sensor technology and exactly what warranty is in danger of being voided if a banded sensor breaks free? Personally, your statements like "no matter how careful the technician, they will eventually get damaged or scratched" and "notoriously innaccurate" appear to have no basis in fact. ONE wheel manufacturer that recommends expoxy and bands is iforged. This is FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE as I personally spoke with their tech people when I purchased a set of their Aero wheels.

Your thoughts and comments would be appreciated.

Charlie

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Mar 7, 2007 | 05:55 PM

#28

87bob

Melting Slicks

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Originally Posted by 02HREBlue

It is the popular misconception that tire pressure sensors are more important on nonrunflats(conventional) tires. They are actually more important on runflats, because it is often times very difficult to tell when they are flat, which may lead to very bad things, especially at high speeds and temperatures. Nonrunflats usually have slow leaks which are not catastrophic, and less often have blowouts which are readily apparent.

The above forum member is correct, a Tech II tool(very expensive) is used to disable the sensors on the DIC, which was necessary for the nonrunflat tires placed on the 2001 and after Z06 corvettes. I currently have nonrunflats on HRE rims, and I will never consider replacing the tire sensors that are not stock- similar replacements on the valve themselves and integrated into the wheel design. Bands, epoxy, etc just simply dont work on a long term basis, and such sensors are easily destroyed by nonknowledgable tire changers. The sensors move and wheel manufacturers will void your warranty for moving hardware and epoxy I assure you -for chrome issues, leaks, etc.

We as corvette forum members ought to be requesting en mass that the aftermarket implement sensor design into rim design for safety and convenience, and not accept anything else in my humble opinion.

I agree with you. I believe that the hold up on the aftermarket is that as long as they are availible from GM, GM would prevent anyone from making a similar item availible to the market place.