Turn off tire pressure mon. system?
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Racer
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Turn off tire pressure mon. system?
I just bought new non-run flat tires and wheels. Is there any way to disable the TPMS so the annoying bells and DIC messages will stop? Or, do I HAVE to re-install the sensors to get the annoyances to stop? I had planned to carry flat repair goo and a pump in case of a flat. That will not work with the sensors.
Safety Car
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You need access to a Tech2 ... which any Chevy dealer has. There is info posted on the steps to follow to turn off the system in:
http://www.stopforce.com/RPO.html
Scroll down to get to the part about the TPS system.
http://www.stopforce.com/RPO.html
Scroll down to get to the part about the TPS system.
Last edited by BlackZ06; Feb 20, 2007 at 06:15 PM.
Drifting
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I may be wrong here, but if you have non run-flats, wouldn't you want to know there was a tire pressure problem before you were on the side of a road at 3am? I would put the sensors in. My $.02.
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It is the popular misconception that tire pressure sensors are more important on nonrunflats(conventional) tires. They are actually more important on runflats, because it is often times very difficult to tell when they are flat, which may lead to very bad things, especially at high speeds and temperatures. Nonrunflats usually have slow leaks which are not catastrophic, and less often have blowouts which are readily apparent.
The above forum member is correct, a Tech II tool(very expensive) is used to disable the sensors on the DIC, which was necessary for the nonrunflat tires placed on the 2001 and after Z06 corvettes. I currently have nonrunflats on HRE rims, and I will never consider replacing the tire sensors that are not stock- similar replacements on the valve themselves and integrated into the wheel design. Bands, epoxy, etc just simply dont work on a long term basis, and such sensors are easily destroyed by nonknowledgable tire changers. The sensors move and wheel manufacturers will void your warranty for moving hardware and epoxy I assure you -for chrome issues, leaks, etc.
We as corvette forum members ought to be requesting en mass that the aftermarket implement sensor design into rim design for safety and convenience, and not accept anything else in my humble opinion.
The above forum member is correct, a Tech II tool(very expensive) is used to disable the sensors on the DIC, which was necessary for the nonrunflat tires placed on the 2001 and after Z06 corvettes. I currently have nonrunflats on HRE rims, and I will never consider replacing the tire sensors that are not stock- similar replacements on the valve themselves and integrated into the wheel design. Bands, epoxy, etc just simply dont work on a long term basis, and such sensors are easily destroyed by nonknowledgable tire changers. The sensors move and wheel manufacturers will void your warranty for moving hardware and epoxy I assure you -for chrome issues, leaks, etc.
We as corvette forum members ought to be requesting en mass that the aftermarket implement sensor design into rim design for safety and convenience, and not accept anything else in my humble opinion.
Last edited by 02HREBlue; Feb 21, 2007 at 10:54 AM. Reason: spelling
Safety Car
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The upside to the sensors is that they will give you some warning when you have a slow leak that the tire is going down. If it is slow enough, you may even be able to get the car to a service place, and get the tire fixed before it is low enough to cause damage.
The downside to them is they are not only useless when you get a big puncture, but if you then use the "fix-a-flat" kit provided (as it is in the Z06) the goop will probably destroy the sensor in that tire.
Probably the best all around solution is as bluvette79 posted above .... Sensors and a AAA card.
Instructor
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I understand the argument for both sides, but I feel having the sensors in the tires gives you an extra tool to keep you aware of the pressure at times you might be least aware. I had a Nissan titan pickup, and they all have a tire pressure monitor. It was not as sophisticated as the vette, but was good enough that when leaving for a trip it warned me that one of my tires was low. Better than flying by the seat of your pants and having a blowout. I can live without them, but why. Good luck what ever you decide. 
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computer speed monitor
i am suprised Gm did not use the computer for low tire warnings. In My Buick Gm has the computer traction control much like the corvette and it monitors the speed of the tores if one tires spins faster than the others you get a low tire warning.
Granted you do not know which tire it is, but you stop look and check them and find it pretty easy. seems like you could program this into a corvette computer.
this system works real well and has saved my *** twice on long hauls with slow leaks just pulled into the nearest tire shop and back on the road !
anybody have any idea why they did not? maybe because they are different size tires? still a good program could compensate for that right?
Granted you do not know which tire it is, but you stop look and check them and find it pretty easy. seems like you could program this into a corvette computer.
this system works real well and has saved my *** twice on long hauls with slow leaks just pulled into the nearest tire shop and back on the road !
anybody have any idea why they did not? maybe because they are different size tires? still a good program could compensate for that right?
Racer
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The Z06 came with a (very expensive) pump kit. With the TPS installed, I'm not going to use the tire sealers, but I carry a plug kit and a $18 pump from the local NAPA store, and at least have the illusion of security.
And I do like having the TPS. It lets me check my tire pressures before and during trips with reasonable confidence, as the air chuck gauges are often wrong, and the pocket gauges can be off, too. I'm sure the TPS transducers can be off, but at least GM talks about them being accurate. (See also "illusion of security."
: ) I did have a slow leak recently, and the TPS told me about it before the tire got too low.My company Fords have had the ABS-based TPS system, and it's a range. Better than nothing, and maybe enough, but not as cool as in-tire transducers.
Le Mans Master
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I just bought new non-run flat tires and wheels. Is there any way to disable the TPMS so the annoying bells and DIC messages will stop? Or, do I HAVE to re-install the sensors to get the annoyances to stop? I had planned to carry flat repair goo and a pump in case of a flat. That will not work with the sensors.
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Short answer - we carried spares
The Z06 came with a (very expensive) pump kit. With the TPS installed, I'm not going to use the tire sealers, but I carry a plug kit and a $18 pump from the local NAPA store, and at least have the illusion of security.
And I do like having the TPS. It lets me check my tire pressures before and during trips with reasonable confidence, as the air chuck gauges are often wrong, and the pocket gauges can be off, too. I'm sure the TPS transducers can be off, but at least GM talks about them being accurate. (See also "illusion of security.": ) I did have a slow leak recently, and the TPS told me about it before the tire got too low.
My company Fords have had the ABS-based TPS system, and it's a range. Better than nothing, and maybe enough, but not as cool as in-tire transducers.
The Z06 came with a (very expensive) pump kit. With the TPS installed, I'm not going to use the tire sealers, but I carry a plug kit and a $18 pump from the local NAPA store, and at least have the illusion of security.
And I do like having the TPS. It lets me check my tire pressures before and during trips with reasonable confidence, as the air chuck gauges are often wrong, and the pocket gauges can be off, too. I'm sure the TPS transducers can be off, but at least GM talks about them being accurate. (See also "illusion of security."
: ) I did have a slow leak recently, and the TPS told me about it before the tire got too low.My company Fords have had the ABS-based TPS system, and it's a range. Better than nothing, and maybe enough, but not as cool as in-tire transducers.
Thanks for the reminder. Any how I also carry the equipment you carry as backup (my pump came from Wal*Mart as did the rest of the equipment)..most of all I'm a AAA member.
Side note:
I have 3 sets of wheels and only one of those aren't equipped with the TPS on the rims.
My Corvette is a '97, so the system can't be deleted. So when I run the wheels without the sensors I have the annoying sounds that come from the DIC warning me that the system isn't working...
Last edited by SLPRC5; Feb 22, 2007 at 01:26 AM.
Le Mans Master
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I've heard that TPS systems will be a federally-mandated requirement on all new vehicles in the near future.
Personally, I love the system; use it all the time to keep an eye on my non-run flat tires.
Personally, I love the system; use it all the time to keep an eye on my non-run flat tires.
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i am suprised Gm did not use the computer for low tire warnings. In My Buick Gm has the computer traction control much like the corvette and it monitors the speed of the tores if one tires spins faster than the others you get a low tire warning.
Granted you do not know which tire it is, but you stop look and check them and find it pretty easy. seems like you could program this into a corvette computer.
this system works real well and has saved my *** twice on long hauls with slow leaks just pulled into the nearest tire shop and back on the road !
anybody have any idea why they did not? maybe because they are different size tires? still a good program could compensate for that right?
Granted you do not know which tire it is, but you stop look and check them and find it pretty easy. seems like you could program this into a corvette computer.
this system works real well and has saved my *** twice on long hauls with slow leaks just pulled into the nearest tire shop and back on the road !
anybody have any idea why they did not? maybe because they are different size tires? still a good program could compensate for that right?
The reason GM went with the "in-tire" sensors was because they installed them for run-flat (RF) tires. RF tires don't change significantly in external appearance (or diameter) when they have no pressure in them. Hence systems such as the wheel speed sensor based (as in your Buick) won't work with RF tires.
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It is the popular misconception that tire pressure sensors are more important on nonrunflats(conventional) tires. They are actually more important on runflats, because it is often times very difficult to tell when they are flat, which may lead to very bad things, especially at high speeds and temperatures. Nonrunflats usually have slow leaks which are not catastrophic, and less often have blowouts which are readily apparent.
The above forum member is correct, a Tech II tool(very expensive) is used to disable the sensors on the DIC, which was necessary for the nonrunflat tires placed on the 2001 and after Z06 corvettes. I currently have nonrunflats on HRE rims, and I will never consider replacing the tire sensors that are not stock- similar replacements on the valve themselves and integrated into the wheel design. Bands, epoxy, etc just simply dont work on a long term basis, and such sensors are easily destroyed by nonknowledgable tire changers. The sensors move and wheel manufacturers will void your warranty for moving hardware and epoxy I assure you -for chrome issues, leaks, etc.
We as corvette forum members ought to be requesting en mass that the aftermarket implement sensor design into rim design for safety and convenience, and not accept anything else in my humble opinion.
The above forum member is correct, a Tech II tool(very expensive) is used to disable the sensors on the DIC, which was necessary for the nonrunflat tires placed on the 2001 and after Z06 corvettes. I currently have nonrunflats on HRE rims, and I will never consider replacing the tire sensors that are not stock- similar replacements on the valve themselves and integrated into the wheel design. Bands, epoxy, etc just simply dont work on a long term basis, and such sensors are easily destroyed by nonknowledgable tire changers. The sensors move and wheel manufacturers will void your warranty for moving hardware and epoxy I assure you -for chrome issues, leaks, etc.
We as corvette forum members ought to be requesting en mass that the aftermarket implement sensor design into rim design for safety and convenience, and not accept anything else in my humble opinion.
Charlie