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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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I hit a curb sunday with my passenger rear... broke the curb, bent my rim and tie rod,,, so i fixed the tie rod and took it to get realighned and the guy there tried and said that something else is bent and that he has the cam bolt all the way out and that he thinks that it is the knuckel... i took it apart last night and looked at the ball joints and the knuckel cant tell that any of it is bent,,, i ordered new rims they will get to me friday... any sugesstions?
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I would believe you damaged either an upper or lower control arm before you bent the knuckle.
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I would believe you damaged either an upper or lower control arm before you bent the knuckle.
that all looks fine,, no stress markes in the aluminum of either arm,, and the lower arm is thicker than the knuckle
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Try a different shop for the alignment???
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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Try a different shop for the alignment???
HAHAHAHAHAH,,, I wish... i live in austin tx and my vette is as low as it gets and the shop i went to is the only one that has a machine that my car will fit on... plus this guy work in nascar setting up car alinghnments (man i cant spell),, he definently knows what he is talking about,, but he wasnt real sure what else was bent,, and he didnt charge me anything
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HAHAHAHAHAH,,, I wish... i live in austin tx and my vette is as low as it gets and the shop i went to is the only one that has a machine that my car will fit on... plus this guy work in nascar setting up car alinghnments (man i cant spell),, he definently knows what he is talking about,, but he wasnt real sure what else was bent,, and he didnt charge me anything

Well the important thing is to have a knowledgable person doing the alignment.

Now you've got me curious, I have the rear suspension pulled out of a Coupe at the house and when I get home I'll look it over and see if I can come up with an idea.
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Well the important thing is to have a knowledgable person doing the alignment.

Now you've got me curious, I have the rear suspension pulled out of a Coupe at the house and when I get home I'll look it over and see if I can come up with an idea.
well im pulling my hair out here,,, i really apreciate any help you can give me,,, mine is on jack stands , keep getting under it with a shop light thinking im going to see something that i didnt see before,,,,
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Since you have it up on stands, I would take some measurements from bad side and good side suspension components to see if you have any differences in parts that should be the same. Sometimes the eyes aren't just good enough.
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Since you have it up on stands, I would take some measurements from bad side and good side suspension components to see if you have any differences in parts that should be the same. Sometimes the eyes aren't just good enough.
now why didnt i think about that,,,, ok now i have to find a measuring tape... ill get back to yall in a min and let yall know what i find out,,, wow,, i feel dumb,,, thanks man
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now why didnt i think about that,,,, ok now i have to find a measuring tape... ill get back to yall in a min and let yall know what i find out,,, wow,, i feel dumb,,, thanks man
evervything measures the same
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I'm gonna guess you bent the spindle the wheel bearings mount on, which is an integral part of the knuckle. My ex-wife bent the spindle when she curbed her Oldsmobile a few years ago ... had the same problem as you, couldn't get it to align until the spindle was replaced.

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After looking at the rear suspension I have laying out I still think it could be a lower control arm since it's so long but at the same time the knuckle isn't as beefy as I originally thought.

If it were my car I'd replace the easiest and cheapest part first.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FFR-Z06
After looking at the rear suspension I have laying out I still think it could be a lower control arm since it's so long but at the same time the knuckle isn't as beefy as I originally thought.

If it were my car I'd replace the easiest and cheapest part first.
i almost wonder if it is the cam bolt or the sway bar mount/ lower a arm bolt.... i get my rims friday.. i think ill just put them on and take it back to that guy and see if it was in the rim... but i am reall starting to think it is the hub bearing
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my guess would be you bent the frame where the upper a-arm attaches. i know when these cars get hit in the suspension it can bend the frame fairly easily there.
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my guess would be you bent the frame where the upper a-arm attaches. i know when these cars get hit in the suspension it can bend the frame fairly easily there.
well the curb pushen in at the bottom... it turned the cam bolt all the way in which is located on the lower a arm. so it would have had to pull on the uper a arm to be the opposing force,, and in that it would have been less force ,,,, so with that being said if there is any frame bendage it would be the lower structure of the suspension ... and the upper a arm is attached to steel frame,, the lower is aluminum... ive looked the lower over and it is the way it should be,,, the weak link is the first to go... so my tie rod was bent,,, rim obviously,, and it turned my cam bolt,, a ball joint would be too thick to bend before anything else would break,,, so i think that it is down to the second lower a arm bolt,, the knuckle or the hub bearing... has any one ever done this before?
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I hit a curb last year and BROKE the knuckle! and ruined a rim. but that was about it.:o
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You said everything measures the same, but did you take measurements from different points on the knuckle to let's say some point on the frame and compare to the other side. This is the only way to begin to see if it is bent because of all the angles of the knuckle. If you are not sure go to a pro, someone who will not use the shotgun approach. Many shops just start changing parts till they get it and then had you the bill and say they are all bent. That is
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Originally Posted by natedog4g
my guess would be you bent the frame where the upper a-arm attaches. i know when these cars get hit in the suspension it can bend the frame fairly easily there.
You don't understand how rigid this frame is, It would take a huge force on the wheel and suspension to cause frame damage.

Most of the bent frame rails that are seen on the salvage Corvettes come from direct contact on the frame itself during an accident not from indirect contact caused by the suspension bending.
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Originally Posted by T VETTE
You said everything measures the same, but did you take measurements from different points on the knuckle to let's say some point on the frame and compare to the other side. This is the only way to begin to see if it is bent because of all the angles of the knuckle. If you are not sure go to a pro, someone who will not use the shotgun approach. Many shops just start changing parts till they get it and then had you the bill and say they are all bent. That is
im about to take the hub bearing out in a little bit got to take my dog and wife to the park so they will be happy.. o and get a socket for the axel nut... havent measured to the knuckle to see if its bent,, still trying to figure out how to make everything equal on both sides with the tires off to get accurate measurments,,,
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