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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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Default Ported LS6 TB vs. Ls2 90??

I currently have a ported LS6 throttle body with my Fast 90 intake on my H/C Z now, would there be any gains, pros/cons, going with an ls2 90 tb? For those that will ask, I don't know exactly what was done to my stock tb, other than it was ported(on the car when I bought it). I believe the factory ls6 tb is 78mm, does anyone know how far out they can be ported? Any incite would be great, thanks!!
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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You might gain 5 hp, but that's not enough to justify the effort (as a retune is required to optimize any changes).
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I would switch over to an LS2 setup. The whole point of running a FAST 90 is so you can use a 90mm TB.

You should be able to get a ported LS2 for around $300. Then sell your 78mm TB for $150 and the cost is minimal.
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I don't understand how you could have a 78mm TB, ported or not, bolted up to a FAST 90 manifold. The bolt patterns don't match up.
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Originally Posted by zeevette
I don't understand how you could have a 78mm TB, ported or not, bolted up to a FAST 90 manifold. The bolt patterns don't match up.


I am setting up my FAST 90 with a Nick Williams TB right now, bolt patterns are even close.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by zeevette
I don't understand how you could have a 78mm TB, ported or not, bolted up to a FAST 90 manifold. The bolt patterns don't match up.
I totally didnt even think of that. Not to mention the gasket grooves are totally different.

Maybe he has a FAST 78 and is confusing it for a 90.
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I totally didnt even think of that. Not to mention the gasket grooves are totally different.

Maybe he has a FAST 78 and is confusing it for a 90.
That could be. Some of the FAST 78 numbers I have seen aren't too shabby either.
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Yeah u have to check out, you either have a 78 w ls6 or a 90 with a ls2(or other 90tb) already. If you have a 78 and upgrade to a 90 w/ls2 you would also need a harness (about $50).

I wouldn't think the expense of a new Fast 90 and LS2 tb would be worth it. Better off spending a grand on a N2O kit.
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Originally Posted by Vettedreamer2
Yeah u have to check out, you either have a 78 w ls6 or a 90 with a ls2(or other 90tb) already. If you have a 78 and upgrade to a 90 w/ls2 you would also need a harness (about $50).

I wouldn't think the expense of a new Fast 90 and LS2 tb would be worth it. Better off spending a grand on a N2O kit.
Well if he does have a FAST 78 all he'd need to buy is the top shell plus the TB. I think they are around $350.

I used a plug and play harness($50) that works great.
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Originally Posted by Jeffs FRC
Well if he does have a FAST 78 all he'd need to buy is the top shell plus the TB. I think they are around $350.

I used a plug and play harness($50) that works great.
Sweet didn't realize middle and bottom are same on both models.

Still what kind of differnce in performance would u think he would get with spending $350 for shell $300 for ported tb and $50 for harness.
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Originally Posted by zeevette
I don't understand how you could have a 78mm TB, ported or not, bolted up to a FAST 90 manifold. The bolt patterns don't match up.
Hate to sound ignorant...but that could be the case!! I was told when I bought the car it was a FAST 90 w/ls6 ported tb. Does anyone have a comparo pic of the two, or how can I tell the difference?
I have pretty good #'s, 450whp, and 416tq w/a 228 cam, so I don't think the cost of upgrading would be worth the minimal gains.

Originally Posted by Vettedreamer2
Yeah u have to check out, you either have a 78 w ls6 or a 90 with a ls2(or other 90tb) already. If you have a 78 and upgrade to a 90 w/ls2 you would also need a harness (about $50).

I wouldn't think the expense of a new Fast 90 and LS2 tb would be worth it. Better off spending a grand on a N2O kit.
^Already have it!!
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Are those #'s N/A or with N2O?? If N/A then I would think is a 90.

What is setup; Are they stock heads??

I'm sure someone can chime is on the bolt pattern of the tb, so u can tell which one u have.
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^Those are n/a. Heads are stage 2 ls6 heads, kooks, no cats, borlas, 228/228 cam, underdrive pulley, and vararam.
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^Those are n/a. Heads are stage 2 ls6 heads, kooks, no cats, borlas, 228/228 cam, underdrive pulley, and vararam.
Yeah I couldn't see someone doing all that and then sticking a 78 on. That wouldn't make much sense.

Someone will give u the bolt pattern. I don't know them without looking. If no one chimes in I'll let you know when mine shows up this week.
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Originally Posted by Vettedreamer2
Yeah I couldn't see someone doing all that and then sticking a 78 on. That wouldn't make much sense.

Someone will give u the bolt pattern. I don't know them without looking. If no one chimes in I'll let you know when mine shows up this week.
Thanks!!
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To make it simple, the FAST 90 has 4 bolts attaching the TB, and the 78 only has 3. Another thing, if it has a 90TB, the actuator (the thingie that sticks out of your TB to the side) is flipped to the pass. side, because it doesn't clear the power steering resevoir. Also the gasket on a 90 is perfectly round, whereas, the 78 is square on top, and round at the bottom.
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