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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Default Column lock issues

I recently took my 2000 coupe in for the lastest column lock
recall and it was a horrible mistake! The steering wheel was locking
up on me but I was able to get it free. The dealership decides they're
gonna just remove the lock plate and that was all they did! After I
picked it up, it failed right away again with the "service column lock"
warning in the DIC. Ofcourse the wheel did'nt lock up but the fuel is
shut off after 2 mph! Now dealer is telling me it's not the column lock
but the pass key circuit. I had a new ignition and key done last year.
They seem to think the fuel shut off has nothing to do with the CL.
Help! This is driving me insane.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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god bless the man that invented the tiny little, simple, easy to install CLB. He did what GM still can't do right after 9 years.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by midnightc5
They seem to think the fuel shut off has nothing to do with the CL.
Help! This is driving me insane.
wow, your being bent over by the dealer and they are not even using vaseline!

Hint: the gm recall doesnt work and is causing the fuel to cut off.

shouldve just gotten the CLB
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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Default what is a CLB

Reading post and would like to know what a CLB is.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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I am one those that paid for a new column lock after trying all the recalls (except this last one). I paid over $400. It works. I'd stay after GM on getting this fixed.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Default Also like to know more about this CLB

I just got my '02 on Halloween and was getting around to checking if it had been through the recall. Now this posting makes me wonder if that's a good move. I'm having no problems so far but I don't want to be stuck somewhere later! What's this CLB and should I go that route?
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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I am one those that paid for a new column lock after trying all the recalls (except this last one). I paid over $400. It works. I'd stay after GM on getting this fixed.
why did you have to pay $400.00, it's GM's problem once you start doing the recalls. CLB $50.00.
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why did you have to pay $400.00, it's GM's problem once you start doing the recalls. CLB $50.00.
Because they tell people that the column lock drive motor is shot and not unlocking. They replace the motor and then proceed with the recall.
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Because they tell people that the column lock drive motor is shot and not unlocking. They replace the motor and then proceed with the recall.
maybe i'm missing something here. If there telling people that, then doing the recalls, does'nt sound right.
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Originally Posted by jmiller
I am one those that paid for a new column lock after trying all the recalls (except this last one). I paid over $400. It works. I'd stay after GM on getting this fixed.
I only paid 50.00 for CLB 3 years ago and it worked.
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Originally Posted by Kevin 64
I just got my '02 on Halloween and was getting around to checking if it had been through the recall. Now this posting makes me wonder if that's a good move. I'm having no problems so far but I don't want to be stuck somewhere later! What's this CLB and should I go that route?
enjoy the light reading..

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1015483
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Originally Posted by cedge
maybe i'm missing something here. If there telling people that, then doing the recalls, does'nt sound right.
That’s the point, but it sure makes money! One member was told that, then successfully argued that it was a bunch of bull and the dealership finally supposedly replaced the motor for no charge and preceded with the recall.
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midnightc5...

The original column-lock recall on the C5 called for re-flashing the PCM to cut the fuel off if the column-lock did not send an "unlocked" signal to the PCM. It also replaced some of the relays that operate the column lock motor. The automatics had the lock plate removed from the column at that time but not the 6-speeds.

The latest column-lock recall removed the plate from the 6-speed cars, but did not alter the fuel cut-off function. So now the column will no longer lock on you, but if the column-lock does not send the "unlocked" signal to the computer, it will still cut the fuel. I believe this recall also changed a couple of the relays that control the column-lock functioning. Keep in mind the column-lock motor continues to operate (even though the lock plate is removed) and must still send the "unlocked" signal to the PCM.

There has been a lot of discussion here on the forum regarding the column-lock malfunction and the actual recalls have also been posted. The recalls call for very specific operations to be performed, so if the dealer did anything less, the recall was not performed correctly. You can get a copy of the recall and ask them specifically what steps they did or did not perform. A search is going to help you harvest a lot of data, even if it's all clear as mud.

I have been told by an excellent GM technician, that replacing a bad column lock motor is not part of the recall, however more often than not, it is the relays that are the problem and not the motor. I have also known a couple of dealers in our area that replaced the motor and did not charge their customers. Just talk nice and remember, most of them are as frustrated with GM's response to this problem as you are.

In the past the gouge has been that once the recalls have been performed, the CLB's will not remedy the problem. I believe someone recently posted however that one of the CLB vendors here, has come up with a workaround and can even eliminate the fuel cut-off function from the PCM if you want. Again try a search on that.

Being in San Diego, you most certainly have more options available than many of us. Since you have already had the recalls performed, I would recommend you find a trusted and knowledgeable GM technician familiar with the column lock problem and talk to them.

Good luck and let us know how it works out.

GUSTO
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Thanks guys! My car is currently at the dealership and the lastest
is that the last recall for the column lock was in 2002! They told me
that they will remove the lock plate and if I wanted the "service column
lock" message removed from the DIC, they'll install a harness at my
expense! I've just printed out the official GM recall bulletin 04006C
issued Feb. 2006 and will be taking it down to them tomorrow! Thanks
again guys. I will keep you updated.
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Because they tell people that the column lock drive motor is shot and not unlocking. They replace the motor and then proceed with the recall.
As long as you're paying for the new actuator motor, demand they use 88965331. It's the only good one.
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Originally Posted by cedge
maybe i'm missing something here. If there telling people that, then doing the recalls, does'nt sound right.
Yes, boys and girls, they replace the acuator motor, then bypass it with the recall. Sounds about right, doesn't it. CLB.
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Originally Posted by cedge
god bless the man that invented the tiny little, simple, easy to install CLB. He did what GM still can't do right after 9 years.
Yup! CLB= end of story
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