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Mar 26, 2007 | 01:19 PM

HARDSHYBOY

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long or shorty headers what is the difference and will they both work well with my kenne bell 2001 C-5

Mar 26, 2007 | 02:54 PM

STLKillerC5

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From what I understand shorty headers increase torque and decrease overall HP, while long tubes provides more HP but decreased torque.

Mar 27, 2007 | 01:03 PM

INTHERED

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Originally Posted by HARDSHYBOY

long or shorty headers what is the difference and will they both work well with my kenne bell 2001 C-5

I think that headers are a waste of money on a blown car unless you think that $1500 is worth the 8 to 10 horsepower that you will gain.

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Mar 27, 2007 | 01:14 PM

zeevette

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I don't believe headers are only worth 8-10 hp, especially on a blown engine. I think 40 is more likely. However, a smaller pulley is probably more effective, and cheaper.

Mar 27, 2007 | 06:49 PM

Johnny Hardcore

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I have shorty's, because I had concerns with emmissions in CA. My tuner informed me that shortys are just for looks, compared to stock, they really have no performance gains. He also informed me the LT's would be good for 25+ RWHP.

The shorty's will pass emmissions in CA but the LT's won't.

I'm moving to NJ on Saturday and I'm getting LT's ASAP.

Last edited by Johnny Hardcore; Mar 27, 2007 at 06:50 PM. Reason: spelling

Mar 27, 2007 | 11:36 PM

ZZOOM06

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Long tube headers will give you more HP and TQ on any engine, stock or modded. The more mods you have, the more you will gain! These motors like to breathe! Shorties are a total waste of money IMO, the stock manifolds are just as good as shorties. Just do a search on headers, that should answer all your questions!

Mar 27, 2007 | 11:49 PM

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Mar 28, 2007 | 12:34 AM

fdxpilot

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Originally Posted by HARDSHYBOY

long or shorty headers what is the difference and will they both work well with my kenne bell 2001 C-5

Long tubes will work better, but as mentioned, are not smog-legal in CA. Unless you have a good shop who will overlook LTs on the inspection, or plan to remove them and go back to stock prior to inspection, don't go LT. Also, you might have trouble selling a car which won't pass inspection.