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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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I have a cold engine knock - any ideas please.

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13,000 miles on the clock.


Ok - This is what happens - - -

Start the cold engine.
Slight knocking sound.
Leave for about 2 minutes - then the noise goes.

For the rest of the day the engine sound is ok.
Its only when the engine is started from stone cold.

Thank you

Mark(England)
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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A lot of others have this issue, often called "Piston Slap". Do a search here on the forum for "Piston Slap" and you'll find tons of articles discussing this. A lot of our cars have it. While it's annoying, it doesn't really cause any issues other than an annoyance. Just let it warm up before you beat on it and you should be good to go! BTW, my car has the same issue and runs like a rocket, even after 30k miles with Piston Slap during cold starts.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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i would try a bottle of chevron techtron fuel system cleaner first. pour it into the gas tank right before you fill up an almost empty tank. no oil change necessary. try that for starters.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Icemanskis
i would try a bottle of chevron techtron fuel system cleaner first. pour it into the gas tank right before you fill up an almost empty tank. no oil change necessary. try that for starters.
FWIW, I don't think the piston slap is a fuel issue. I have the slap problem and also use Techron regularly and the slap doesn't diminish.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GaryP
FWIW, I don't think the piston slap is a fuel issue. I have the slap problem and also use Techron regularly and the slap doesn't diminish.
i dont know, just going by its what it is advertised to do. reduce deposits related to knocking, etc. for 6 bucks i would give it a shot regardless of the outcome.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Icemanskis
i dont know, just going by its what it is advertised to do. reduce deposits related to knocking, etc. for 6 bucks i would give it a shot regardless of the outcome.
"Knocking" in this case is referring to detonation, which doesn't occur at idle or low power (unless it's a diesel). Piston slap is completely different.

BTW, mine's had piston slap since I first owned her, nary a problem.

HTH, and have a good one,
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr
"Knocking" in this case is referring to detonation, which doesn't occur at idle or low power (unless it's a diesel). Piston slap is completely different.

BTW, mine's had piston slap since I first owned her, nary a problem.

HTH, and have a good one,
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Lifter tick...

Will stop as the lifters pump themselfs up..

No biggie...
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LS1 horsepower in the morning..
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Originally Posted by nwdanner
A lot of others have this issue, often called "Piston Slap". Do a search here on the forum for "Piston Slap" and you'll find tons of articles discussing this. A lot of our cars have it. While it's annoying, it doesn't really cause any issues other than an annoyance. Just let it warm up before you beat on it and you should be good to go! BTW, my car has the same issue and runs like a rocket, even after 30k miles with Piston Slap during cold starts.

The piston slap really grates on my nerves, but it doesn't seem to hurt the car. I just turn the radio up louder. Someday I might be able to afford an LS2 transplant, but until then I figure on just dealing with it.

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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Get a block heater.

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Mine does it also, I'd say its piston slap. Kind of annoying but I got over it, and now I don't even notice it.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 03:25 AM
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The Knock.

When I first start the engine - there is a small knock.

"Its when I put it in drive" - the knocking is much loader.

After a couple of minutes the knock stops.

Could this still be Piston Slap.

Thank you all for your help.

Mark.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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Mark,

What you describe exactly fits the symptoms of piston slap.

Mike
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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Piston slap... Very common on the LS1.. Nature of the beast.... Get used to it.. A thicker grade oil may reduce the sound a bit
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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What they said. 2003 LS1 C5 same noise 4800 miles on it. No problems..2004 Silverado 4x4 same deal, 13,000 miles on it...ya I know; I don't drive them very much.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Knocking or tapping? If its coming from the top of the engine then its the lifters and if from the bottom, its piston slap or worse, rod bearings. I've done the lifter thing on my '99 two and a half years ago now. Had one lifter at a minimum that was bleeding down when cold. It would tap when I started it up(cold) and initially would only last a few seconds. Then it slowly got worse and worse. Near the end, it would tap till the engine temperature actually started to warm up and then suddenly it became louder and wouldn't go away unless a load was placed on the engine and so on. Replaced the lifters, all was happy and quiet once again.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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Its seems like mine has been worse lately or I may just be listening harder. If I turn the car off and then start it 5 minutes later it will do it all over again, untill it is ran for about a 1/4 mile. It seems to do it if I take off from a dead stop at a slow speed.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gpracer1
Get a block heater.

Mine has a factory equipped block heater ( canadian car). Its never been used though still tie wrapped.
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Originally Posted by chargedc5
Its seems like mine has been worse lately or I may just be listening harder. If I turn the car off and then start it 5 minutes later it will do it all over again, untill it is ran for about a 1/4 mile. It seems to do it if I take off from a dead stop at a slow speed.
You might want to look at your oil pressure when you restart and the engine is warm. Might have a problem developing there.
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