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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by miami993c297
The remote bleeder mounted on the new slave is efficient and after the 3 first days of heat cycles and the first series of hot launches I decided to bleed my system, the OEM liquid had already turn black...which I guess is normal.
Do you have any advice about a nice and efficient clutch fluid to use?

Waiting on your comments.
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Thanks for the report on the new clutch. You're smart to be careful on the break-in.

Regarding fluid. Came across this page while researching fuild alternatives today. Best fluid comparo I've found so far. Don't know the company.

You'd be safe with any of the hi-performance fluids here. But all of them will still require frequent bleeds to keep the pedal normal. As always, the color of the fluid in the reservoir is the tell.

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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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On the tuning side I had to modify the Throttle Follower Decay (P/N) which indicates clearly that inertia is less with the Exo-Skel vs. the Spec Aluminum Flywheel…Waiting on your comments.
I dunno what that whole assembly weighs, but as much weight as that thing has concentrated at the crank centerline, it's going to have some nice MOI numbers. Probably really feel it in 1st and 2nd gear.

As for the fluid, if you have a remote bleeder and plan to bleed often, just run a really good high temp fluid with high dry boiling points (ATE, Motul, etc). Probably the cheapest of such (if you change OFTEN) is the old Ford Heavy Duty DOT3 stuff. Used to race with this stuff before I switched to ATE. It's real cheap (used to be just a couple of bucks a can) and comes in metal cans, which is better than plastic. Just change it often, it's wet boiling point sucks.
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I just did mine with the Motul 600, nice report and the clutch looks beautiful
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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I just did mine with the Motul 600, nice report and the clutch looks beautiful
Same here wrapped lines, remote bleeder, love it
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Miami?
What is the cost of this clutch?..........if you don't mind.
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IIRC the last group purchase had them for about $1400 . I have only put about 20 miles on mine,very difficult to manuever the car in tight places still.Clutch feels slightly stiffer to me(with all new hydraulics) Have not broken it in yet,so I am encouraged to hear it will bed in and be perhaps LESS grabby,more forgiving Mine seems to have a slight rattle noise when disengaged,seems to go away when engaged/driving.Who knows,what with all the other noise coming from under my hood Cant wait to get mine tuned and sorted out finally ! I think I made the right choice,very happy with mine so far.
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Thanks for the report on the new clutch. You're smart to be careful on the break-in.

Regarding fluid. Came across this page while researching fuild alternatives today. Best fluid comparo I've found so far. Don't know the company.

You'd be safe with any of the hi-performance fluids here. But all of them will still require frequent bleeds to keep the pedal normal. As always, the color of the fluid in the reservoir is the tell.

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Hi Ranger,

As usual, your comments are clear and informative...

It seems that the Motul 600RBF is a nice compromise and I will go certainly for this one.

Thank you for sharing your experience, system will be bleeded often and reservoir will be cleaned a lot...

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Originally Posted by drivinhard
I dunno what that whole assembly weighs, but as much weight as that thing has concentrated at the crank centerline, it's going to have some nice MOI numbers. Probably really feel it in 1st and 2nd gear.

Hi drivinhard,

I did weight myself the Stock assembly vs. the Exo-Skel, here are the numbers:

OEM =----------------49 pound

Spec Alu Flwh =------40 pound

Exo-Skel =-----------38 pound


I don,t know about the MOI but by the tuning it is lower than the Spec Aluminium Flywheel assembly, compare to OEM certainly a world of difference.

Thank you for your advice on the Clutch Fluid, I seem to be on the right way...

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Was it necessary to remove the bell housing to get it in or could you install from the bottom through the inspection panel?
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Originally Posted by miami993c297
Hi drivinhard,

I did weight myself the Stock assembly vs. the Exo-Skel, here are the numbers:

OEM =----------------49 pound

Spec Alu Flwh =------40 pound

Exo-Skel =-----------38 pound


I don,t know about the MOI but by the tuning it is lower than the Spec Aluminium Flywheel assembly, compare to OEM certainly a world of difference.

Thank you for your advice on the Clutch Fluid, I seem to be on the right way...

Christian
I drove a friends 01 with a Spec stage 2 so I know what that feels like compared to stock. How does the Exo feel pedal wise as compared to the Spec.?
Also his seems to rev quicker yet we both have about the same rwhp, Did you notice this as well? And if so is it just as noticeable as the weight difference?

Does anyone have any feed back on the Exedy 2-stage............also weight #'s?
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
Was it necessary to remove the bell housing to get it in or could you install from the bottom through the inspection panel?
Hi vettenuts,

I decided to upgrade to an RPM Stage V gearbox in the same time...

Everything was unmounted in my case then I can't answer to your specific question.

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Originally Posted by u4ick
How does the Exo feel pedal wise as compared to the Spec.?
Also his seems to rev quicker yet we both have about the same rwhp, Did you notice this as well?
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I am just out of a Spec Stage II and the pressure on the pedal is not "very" different, didn't use a dynamometer to tell you the difference but it is minimal.
The difference is in the overall travel and in the engagement, The Exo-Skel engage/desengage on the third of the travel of the Spec...which make it different in term of management...

On the consequence of the different MOI I did mention in my first post:
"On the tuning side I had to modify the Throttle Follower Decay (P/N) which indicates clearly that inertia is less with the Exo-Skel vs. the Spec Aluminum Flywheel…"
In term of power I didn't measure it then I will not risk any number...

Hope that's helping
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What are the symptoms of the "Throttle Follower Decay"? My car at low RPM has a little surge since the clutch install.

Thanks
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For anyone interested, we have plenty of these in stock at $1295 shipped within the US.


Besides what we have installed, I have one in my NA coupe and love it. Smooth shifts at WOT, and the pedal feel is nice even for a big cammed na car. The Exo has internal stops on the pressure plate so it is good for the road race crowd also. I would say it's only down side is that when the clutch pedal is depressed there is some minor noise from the discs floating, but it's not terrible, and well worth a good working clutch!
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
For anyone interested, we have plenty of these in stock at $1295 shipped within the US.


Besides what we have installed, I have one in my NA coupe and love it. Smooth shifts at WOT, and the pedal feel is nice even for a big cammed na car. The Exo has internal stops on the pressure plate so it is good for the road race crowd also. I would say it's only down side is that when the clutch pedal is depressed there is some minor noise from the discs floating, but it's not terrible, and well worth a good working clutch!
Hi DOUG,

Do you recommend the installation of your Clutch Pedal Stop with the Exo-Skel?

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Do you recommend the installation of your Clutch Pedal Stop with the Exo-Skel?

Christian

The Exo has a internal stop incorporated with the pressure plate so it really is not necessary. Were it can help is in a drag car where you can raise the clutch stop up if clutch engagement is high anyway, and you want to shorten shift times by not extending your foot as much. Hey hundredths add up per each shift.
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If you guys would rev your car up and dump the clutch at 40mph in 3rd gear, would it slip the clutch or would it spin the tires? Mine spun the CLUTCH today, but it was the first time i've tried this.
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