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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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I have a cam/springs in the mail and I've never changed anything in the valvetrain of the car before. All the cam install guides assume you are doing heads too, but I am not. How do I remove the springs? Anything else I should replace while im in there? The only way ive heard of keeping the valve from falling is to use an air compressor and fitting, is this true as well?


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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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There is a valve spring removal tool especially made to remove the springs while installed on the engine. I would recomend. getting one--I believe you can get one from Thunder racing--they are a supporting vendor -just click on their ad on the left and type in valve tool and it will pop up--Cost is $129---I made my own---compressed air will hold the valve up while you take the old spring off--I've changed so many that i just take my time and make sure that the stem does not touch the retainer and i don't have to use air-usually the valve seals will hold the valve up OK-It just takes alot more time to use the air--If unsure then I would use the air to be more confident--
I would also check the valve geometry with a new cam install with a pushrod length checker--then order the appropriate length hardened pushrods---Make sure all the retainers are OK as well as the keepers---If you have an extra $300-$400 then i would purchase some roller rockers too--I like the Yella Terra rockers the best--but the new Scorpion rockers look nice as do the Harland-Sharp or the SLP

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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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The Crane/Vinci tool is the best one out there for valve springs. You either need to used compressed air to hold up the valves or the Top Dead Center method, which I prefer. This requires you set the piston to the top prior to starting each cylinder, but the valves can't go anywhere. I had one drop once with compressed air and had to pull the head so I don't use that method anymore.
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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most people will leave forget to tell you to give each valve a soft 'wrap', to break free the retainers/locks, the air hissing out the intake will tell you real quick to stop and do this
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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It was my understanding that with my cam I could keep the stock pushrods/rockers

It is the GM hot cam kit and it comes with ls6 springs

Im starting to wonder if I bit off more than I can chew, having only worked externally before (headers, turbos, ect)
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Originally Posted by BrianG01
It was my understanding that with my cam I could keep the stock pushrods/rockers

It is the GM hot cam kit and it comes with ls6 springs

Im starting to wonder if I bit off more than I can chew, having only worked externally before (headers, turbos, ect)
Honestly, I wouldn't waste my time with the hot cam. If your gonna do that much work, get a real cam

You should definitely get some stronger pushrods, since you'll be there and they are the weak link.

Stick with the stock rockers, no advantage to changing them.

I can give you a hand with the spring install if you need it.
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Honestly, I wouldn't waste my time with the hot cam. If your gonna do that much work, get a real cam

You should definitely get some stronger pushrods, since you'll be there and they are the weak link.

Stick with the stock rockers, no advantage to changing them.

I can give you a hand with the spring install if you need it.

Im hoping it all makes sense once im in there. This is my first time working on a car with pushrods, and my first time working on the valvetrain. Did you find this to be the case?
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Originally Posted by BrianG01
Im hoping it all makes sense once im in there. This is my first time working on a car with pushrods, and my first time working on the valvetrain. Did you find this to be the case?
If you've replaced valve springs before, it's a piece of cake.

The Crane LS1 tool is the best IMHO. The hardest part is removing the spark plugs.
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Originally Posted by Bink
That is exactly what you want. Great price too.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FRCTony
That is exactly what you want. Great price too.
any benefit over this at half the price?

http://www.sdparts.com/product/SLP53...orToolSet.aspx
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Originally Posted by BrianG01
any benefit over this at half the price?

http://www.sdparts.com/product/SLP53...orToolSet.aspx
The Crane tool is the best. Anything else is going to make an easy job difficult. Well worth the price, and that is a great price. I don't think you'll find it cheaper.

Besides, you'll need it again soon when you change out that wimpy cam.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FRCTony
The Crane tool is the best. Anything else is going to make an easy job difficult. Well worth the price, and that is a great price. I don't think you'll find it cheaper.

Besides, you'll need it again soon when you change out that wimpy cam.
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Maybe ill look into getting that crane tool
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I would agree on the crane tool--the other one will end up in the trash--it sucks ---Also sorry but have to agree on the hot-cam selection- I would go with something more aggressive--Don't think you'll be happy--
Use the old school method of cam selection-- Do your homework and pick out the right cam for your application----THEN go 1 bigger !!!!!
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