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Do you mean the transmission, the rear differential or both? There isn't a transaxle per se. The transmission sits right in front of the rear differential, in the rear of the car but is serviced separately. Also, do you have an auto or a stick?
From: Corona CA, sometimes Austin TX or Las Vegas NV
Originally Posted by vettenuts
Do you mean the transmission, the rear differential or both? There isn't a transaxle per se. The transmission sits right in front of the rear differential, in the rear of the car but is serviced separately. Also, do you have an auto or a stick?
The trans. If I were to have said "Transmission", someone would have hammered me on it.
Redline is a good oil as well. Not sure on their ATF whether their base is ester like their oil. Also, some run MTL in the tranny, not sure how well that works but I have considered trying this. There is a lot of discussion on the blocker rings, with earlier trannys being a paper that is susceptible to synthetics. I would do some searching to get more information on the the blocker rings.
The owners guide says nothing about it. Thanks for the info but is Amsoil better than Red Line or the same just less expensive?
AMSOIL and Redline are both what I consider top line synthetic products, but they use different basestocks. AMSOIL uses a Group IV PAO basestock, Redline uses a Group V ester basestock. Based on problems I read online with the esters effects on seals and tranny blocker rings (nothing truly substantiated in my mind but enough to give me pause), I choose AMSOIL and have been using it trouble free since 2004 in my exclusively track driven 02 Z06.
From: Corona CA, sometimes Austin TX or Las Vegas NV
Originally Posted by vettenuts
Redline is a good oil as well. Not sure on their ATF whether their base is ester like their oil. Also, some run MTL in the tranny, not sure how well that works but I have considered trying this. There is a lot of discussion on the blocker rings, with earlier trannys being a paper that is susceptible to synthetics. I would do some searching to get more information on the the blocker rings.
Great info! I had never heard of blocker rings being made of paper and I'm pretty verso on C5.
Thanks again and if you hear of anything else, please let me know.
Ok, so let me ask about the rear-end fluid. The maintenance schedule in the owner's manual says nothing about its longevity. Mine still has the original stuff within and still quiet with a gazzillion miles on it. It has never even been apart. Since with my many miles, people will assume that I would know this answer, but I don't. Anyone had their rearend apart and any indication that the lubricant needed changing?
Ok, so let me ask about the rear-end fluid. The maintenance schedule in the owner's manual says nothing about its longevity. Mine still has the original stuff within and still quiet with a gazzillion miles on it. It has never even been apart. Since with my many miles, people will assume that I would know this answer, but I don't. Anyone had their rearend apart and any indication that the lubricant needed changing?
I can only offer my observations. I first changed my fluid in the differential at 1,000 with Amsoil. I changed again at 10,000 miles or there abouts. A few weeks ago I put in a DTE differential, that requires a special blend of Redline 75W-140 for the clutch pack they use. The Amsoil fluid is blue when it goes in, and usually dark when it comes out. When I did this last drain to swap the rears, it came out blue just like it went in and it had 14,000 miles on it and a number of dyno runs. It appears to me that the initial wear in cause the oil to darken, but once the rear was well broken in the wear on the oil looked to be minimal. I will likely follow the same type of changes with the new DTE rear, only now I must use what they require for lubricant. They recommend every 12K miles for a street driven car with their rear.
Check at least twice a year.
A4 = Change fluid at 50k or 100k, depending on usage
M6 = None Required (Fluid loss may indicate a problem)
Diff = None Required (Fluid loss may indicate a problem)
Check at least twice a year.
A4 = Change fluid at 50k or 100k, depending on usage
M6 = None Required (Fluid loss may indicate a problem)
Diff = None Required (Fluid loss may indicate a problem)
I read that to, but it is very hard to swallow that anything that is lubricated and has gears and could wear does not have a service interval. I would think that ~50K would be good for the last two, it sure could not hurt right?
I read that to, but it is very hard to swallow that anything that is lubricated and has gears and could wear does not have a service interval. I would think that ~50K would be good for the last two, it sure could not hurt right?
Right. As some have stated, they changed at 10k. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Some change motor oil every 3k. Also nothing wrong with that. The owner's manual is giving GM's minimum recommendations.
Over the years I've owned a couple of manuals and I don't recall any of them requiring fluid changes. And I think today's technology is better than before. I personally follow the recommendations. If I'm a little harder on the equipment than normal, then I adjust my maintenance accordingly.
One reason I offered my observations above is that it seemed after a couple of changes the initial wear material was out of the differential and the fluid came out much cleaner. So not sure how much material ends up in the oil from the initial break-in period, but for the long term I got rid of it.
One reason I offered my observations above is that it seemed after a couple of changes the initial wear material was out of the differential and the fluid came out much cleaner. So not sure how much material ends up in the oil from the initial break-in period, but for the long term I got rid of it.
That's inline with tests I've seen from AMSOIL indicating diffs wear less over the long run if the factory fluid (and hence break-in material) is changed out at about the 5k mark.
Also, somewhat applicable to the discussion, AMSOIL recommends that even its best gear oil, the AMSOIL Severe Gear Extreme Pressure Synthetic 75w90 I use in my 02 Z06 for the track, should be changed out at 50k mile intervals in severe service. Given the high temps the diff in the C5 sees and the relatively small fluid volume, I'd consider our applications "severe" service.