Well, after getting my car back with a couple hundred extra HP at the ground, and making more than a couple of high speed runs, it's become apparent that the Blue Bullet is in need of a brake upgrade. Now, I'm a tremendous fan of EBC Greenstuff pads, and have recently become aware of their Yellowstuff (street/track compound, still safe when cold) and that they make rotors also. So I priced around, and came up with this:

Front and Rear Slotted Rotors, approx $450 for set, slotted and dimpled rotors. Pads would be about $250 for a set for all 4 corners.

I do NOT like fully drilled rotors, which took out a large chunk of the market. The Baer rotors I felt were just too expensive. Anyway...

Has anyone actually used the EBC rotors before?? I'm just looking for some feedback on durability and resistance to fade when coupled with the EBC pads. Otherwise, I'll be the guinea-pig.

 

Send TheDarkness a PM. He's a good friend of mine and I believe he has been using their rotors. He has tried a bunch of different setups and is the stock caliper brake professional in my opinion.

Matt

 

My experience is that rotors make little difference to braking torque. On the other hand, the pads, for me. make a HUGE difference in braking power.

I'd recommend you try different pads to find the ones that are the best fit for your needs. Once you've found the right pads ... then assuming you still need better braking I'd do the following ...

1) Look into a tire/wheel combination that provide better grip to the road.

2) If you're happy with the pads and tires, and still need better braking, then look at replacing the rotors ... I'm still playing with the pads ....

 

I tend to agree with BlackZ06 but you should also keep in mind that changing to stainless lines will help too. I've yet to do it but have helped with an install and the difference was almost night and day. The Hawk HPS pads (although the sound like poo outside the car) also make a enormous difference.

The EBC rotors my friend has look great. They are slotted & dimpled as well.

 

I have used the EBC Green Stuff pads and they were very nice...good stopping power...GM slotted/drilled rotors are nice, but you have to paint the hats and vains with hi-temp paint to stop the rusting up.
If you not on the track, drilled rotors are not bad for a DD.
But I understand your concern about the D/S rotors.
I went with slotted/dimpled rotors and GM Ceramic pads...I like this combination.
Try the EBC dimpled and slotted rotors with the greenstuff pads as mentioned these may work for you.
Good Luck

 

I just installed stainless braided brake hoses and the EBC Yellow Stuff brake pads.

No codes from the stainless hoses.

I'm using stock rotors.

Only a few hard stops to brake in the pads and some local in town driving. So far I'm impressed. DE at VIR next week will tell.

 

Yeah, I've been using the Greenstuff pads on my Trans Am's for years now. My concern about rotors is warping, which I want to avoid (the 62K mile stockers are showing signs now). As hard as I tend to drive, I could get away with the Greenstuff, but the Yellowstuff is looking better and better considering I would like to try a road course with the Vette at some point.

Thanks everyone.

 

I have the EBC Redstuffs pads and love them. They are not on my vette but on my 01 Grand Prix GTP with well over 300hp at the wheels and the pads are fantastic with little dusting no noise and great stopping power. My friend now has them on his 03 Z06 and is extremely happy with them.

 

Sean, I have the EBC RedStuff pads on my DD '02Grand Prix , a good 60,000 miles and on the Z06 for a good 20,000 miles. I love them because they stop when I want and they dust a lot less than stock.

Thanks Andy, I will be purchasing more when these need replacing!

 

Andy, I use your EBC Yellow pads on my Celica GT and Infiniti G35 when I run them on the road courses - great pads! I even tried them on the rear calipers of my C5 with really good results. Quality brake pad that offers great performance for the money. Mike

 

I had used greenstuffs on my old C4 and I was surprised how quickly they ate through the rotor... dust wasnt too bad and the feel was great.. they also didnt last very long.. but they are easy to change..

I preferred the hawk HPS for my needs on that car ((1993 C4 - with the ZR1 C4 brake upgrade). It saw several HPDE events and they worked good, stopped nice, lasted until I sold the car and were easier on the rotors.

 

I want to try the EBC pads hopefully we can get a corvette forum discount.

Please PM me EBC.

Which compounds for street/track car redstuff or yellow?

 

I can't comment on the rotors, but I've been using the Green Stuff pads for about a year and they are great. The only thing I don't like about them is the green shows through against my red calipers and makes the wheels look a little ghetto I sprayed them with VHT flat black and that helped. I'm using the GM slotted and drilled rotors and am interested in changing these out too. I painted them with the VHT hi-temp clear, and they are still rusting. I used them with the GM ceramics and although they did cut down on dusting I didn't like them one bit. So I changed out to the EBC pads and found them superiour to the GM ceramics. I am interested in changing out rotors as the GM's are starting to look nasty. So, I'm interested in what you find out about these rotors also.

 

For the money, you can't beat the GM C6 Z51 slotted rotors and brackets, they take a beating and look great

Most C5's I've seen lately have worn out brake pins from poor maintenance, another plus on replacing the larger brackets

 

EBC makes a Blue stuff Pad for endurance racing too but I've never been able to find them.

I use their yellows on the rear of my car with Hawk HP+ on the street and they do the job. Probably would be fine for entry to mid level braking at HPDE's.

Would sure like to find the Blue Stuffs but the website doesn't show them for the C5 application.

 

Message for Aloha Mike,thanks really appreciate your feeback my e mail is andy@ebcbrakes.com, for Bluebyu you may have used an older Green compound and as our top selling pad range this has undergone 9 material changes since 2002 alone,latest version is coded AF44/69 on the box end, used this myself on a 3 litre street car for 7000 miles and did not want to remove them except needed to test other stuff.

Message for dmiz, EBC Bluestuff is a harder pad, it has less bite than Yellowstuff DM 1793 but has been used with success on our sponsored race team Emotional Engineering who run a fast Holden Camaro and are podium regulars. They only use it for the life and on a very good oversize AP set up, personally on a stock caliper I would still go for the Yellowstuff 1793 on Vettes but if anyone wants Blue on these cars I can make it in a heartbeat.

WE have a lab cell production here in the UK and run 5 dynos, two on which run 24/7 for conformance testing and the guy who runs those dynos makes all our lab small batches as he is there in the dyno room in our lab, he makes 30-40 sets a week of real juicy brakes that are not normal shelf items so we can do them , please remember they wont bite quite as hard as the yellows though.

I notice some comments about warping around and of course rotors dont warp they generate a thin spot and pulsate(only cured by turning or replacement) or they tar up (black spot) but Yellowstuff includes a fine polish that takes off this glaze and trues the minor rotor imperfections up as you drive, this is MINOR we are not talking abrasion here just microns which is all it takes for pulsation to start or be eradicated. People very rarely get pulsation on our yellows for this reason whereas when I took over EBC in 2002 I was plagued with pulsation problems on older green compounds. In fact I took over EBC because the previous factory owner would not xxxxing listen.

Now we are getting somewhere

 

I think I am going to try out this new yellow compound

 

Now we are getting somewhere

I saw the compound on the yellow stuffs. It sort of resurfaces or conditions the rotors surface before the new pad material was applied over the old. A great feature.

I don't think the yellows dust very much in comparison to other race brake pads or even the hp+, but those are on the front of my car so it's tough to tell.

Now I've never tried the yellow stuff on the front, but the hp+ that I run would never work at the track. I have to change to a HT-10 or DT-70 compound to run deep into a turn and stand on the brakes repeatedly for 30 minutes. Talk about dust, its everywhere (not that big of deal) and it eats into everything But dust is well worth keeping the car on guardrail free and feeling all those G forces try to pull your teeth out.

Are yellow stuffs designed to perform at high speed tracks like Watkins or VIR where we slow ~3200+ pound car down from 150's(+) to 80 or 90's several times in the course on runs of up ~30 minutes?

What causes the black spots on the rotor? I figure it's pad buildup but what causes that?

 

I ordered a set of yellow pads from EBC. As soon as they come in and I get them on the car I will post a review on what I think about them.

IS EBC dust corrossive? I have polished un-clearcoated wheels and wanted to make sure its not corrossive dust like HAWK pads.

My rotors seem good but Im ordering new rotors for the new pads.

 

Sean, just go get some rotors from Jason at NAPA.