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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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Anybody have any numbers on cam and bolt on cars and if so what cam
Is it even possible to hit 400rwhp on a 6 speed or do I need some heads as well
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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Got 397.97 rwhp and 368 rwtq from a 220/224 112lsa cam by Flowtech. See sig for bolt ons(usuals)
Was told if I had 160* thermostat I would have broken 400
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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See sig. These numbers are a bit low since I am running 11:1 AFR.
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I made 399 rwhp with just a G5x3 cam and all the bolt ons. If I hadn't been running 4.10's, I would have easily broken the 400 mark.
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Originally Posted by Chrp 3rd
Anybody have any numbers on cam and bolt on cars and if so what cam
Is it even possible to hit 400rwhp on a 6 speed or do I need some heads as well

400 RWHP cam only on a MN6 car is pretty common as long as you have headers & CAI to go along w/it.

We are including the complete $500 Dyno & driveability tune for $0 with our cam & install special.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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Simple....www.eastcoastsupercharging.com I had headers, stock heads, with their custom cam kit(includes everything) I am at 430rwhp.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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To break 400whp with cam only on an LS1, you typically see pretty decent sized cams, like the G5x3. You can get there, but if you are picky about your idle, and driving characteristics, you'd probably be better off using a smaller cam with some ported/polished heads. I'm not trying to slam you guys with bigger cams than my 224/224, but I'm a picky guy when it comes to idle and mannerisms, and I don't think I would have been too happy with something a whole lot bigger. With my cam size and aftermarket budget heads, I'm at 410 at the wheel.

If you want tons and tons of cam-only #s, go to ls1tech.com. There is a virtual goldmine over there. You have to wade through a bunch of bs, but ultimately, they have a heck of a lot more people with cam-only and h/c packages to check out.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 04BlueGoose
Got 397.97 rwhp and 368 rwtq from a 220/224 112lsa cam by Flowtech. See sig for bolt ons(usuals)
Was told if I had 160* thermostat I would have broken 400
Yes because an lower temp t-stat magically adds power A t-stat is a switch that regulates the flow of coolant through the system. A lower temp t-stat opens at a lower temp and allows coolant to flow through the radiator sooner. Thus, it begins cooling earlier and the engine takes longer to reach operating temperature. It will not change the normal operating temperature of the vehicle. A motor that is in it's optimum temperature range will make the most power becuse you can run the most timing... when the motor gets hot or heat soaked the computer must pull timing to stave off detonation thus reducing power output.

To the OP... yes you can hit 400 rwhp on ls1 heads w/ bolt-ons... but it'll be a big cam.

If you go heads/cam you can pick a smaller cam and still achieve your power goals... or even bump them up some.

I'm at 436/397 w/ a G5-X2 cam, yella terra rockers, aluminum flywheel, and CAI/headers w/ cats. However, I have stock LS6 heads.
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Someone posted 472rwhp cam only!
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Yes because an lower temp t-stat magically adds power
The lower temps would allow two degrees more timing, which would have resulted in the additional 3 hp to put the car over 400.
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Yes because an lower temp t-stat magically adds power A t-stat is a switch that regulates the flow of coolant through the system. A lower temp t-stat opens at a lower temp and allows coolant to flow through the radiator sooner. Thus, it begins cooling earlier and the engine takes longer to reach operating temperature. It will not change the normal operating temperature of the vehicle. A motor that is in it's optimum temperature range will make the most power because you can run the most timing... when the motor gets hot or heat soaked the computer must pull timing to stave off detonation thus reducing power output.

To the OP... yes you can hit 400 rwhp on ls1 heads w/ bolt-ons... but it'll be a big cam.

If you go heads/cam you can pick a smaller cam and still achieve your power goals... or even bump them up some.

I'm at 436/397 w/ a G5-X2 cam, yella terra rockers, aluminum flywheel, and CAI/headers w/ cats. However, I have stock LS6 heads.
You are correct about the T-Stat being the cause of pulling timing. My second pull actually got to the 400+ mark but the tuner was not happy and pulled 2* of timing out. BTW it really only cost me 2/3 RWHP.

RE: Big Cams vs Small cams. Did you look at what my cam was? 220/224 Its got a lot of lift (590's I/E). I have seen curves that are almost Identical to mine using 23+/23+ . There are a lot of good small cames out there.

Just realized you are a 01 Z06 that started out with 385 were we begin at 350(yes I know at the fly wheel) Guess I should get your 436 when I put my "cleaned up" 02 zo6 heads on.

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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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^ Cool... you know your stuff.... just so many on here seem to think a lower t-stat will add power and make the car run cooler w/o ever understanding what it's doing.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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I have to admit to considering lower the thermostat temp, but I am concerned about the oil temp dropping too low. If I knew the oil temp would still get up to 200 (it didn't in my old L98) I would likely go to a cooler thermostat (which would make Don happy ).
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
I have to admit to considering lower the thermostat temp, but I am concerned about the oil temp dropping too low. If I knew the oil temp would still get up to 200 (it didn't in my old L98) I would likely go to a cooler thermostat (which would make Don happy ).
Oil temp will still get above 200 for flash-off, so no worries there. The other benefit of a lower temp TS is longer tranny life as the stock configuration runs through the radiator. (an aftermarket fin & plate style cooler will solve thet even better).
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We got 438rwhp on our Mustang Dyno out of a 04 Z06 with cam and headers. Still had a stock intake and throttle body.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Stock LS1 heads, G5X3, bolt ons = 402 RWHP

The tune was pretty conservative, I could have gona a little more but I stayed safe for my nitrous use !!
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417rwhp running the Torquer V2
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 02blackbeauty19
Stock LS1 heads, G5X3, bolt ons = 402 RWHP

The tune was pretty conservative, I could have gona a little more but I stayed safe for my nitrous use !!

Always tune on the safe side.....have seen to much carnage from pushing for that last few horses!


Excellent numbers Mike!
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Patrick C5 got ~430rwhp on a Mustang dyno with stock LS1 heads, a MS3, and LS6 intake thru LG Street Lt's.
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Originally Posted by TLewis4095
400 RWHP cam only on a MN6 car is pretty common as long as you have headers & CAI to go along w/it.

We are including the complete $500 Dyno & driveability tune for $0 with our cam & install special.


<<< new C5 owner here in florida, looking for a shop to do a cam and tune, good possibility it will have a 100 shot as well.


your website is down as far as products, can you give me more info please.
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