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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Last week I had to have my car towed to the dealer because I was driving down the road and a 3rd spark plug on the driver's side "fell out". The dealer told me the plug must have just worked it's way out and they replaced it and sent me on my way.

Today I'm driving home, and all of a sudden I hear the same horrible sound eminating from under my hood. I pull over immediately knowing that my spark plug came out again. What I can't understand is why this would happen. Can anyone please give me some advice on why and how this is happening? Is this a harbinger of serious issues and repair costs? I'm somewhat freaking out. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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It's possible the plug was cross threaded at some point and was never in real tight and worked it's way out. If you have access to a borescope you could check the threads. Good Luck.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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Well if it came out a second time then the threads in the cylinder head are damaged. Last resort you can heli-coil it but I wouldn't recommend it due the shavings falling into the cylinder.
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Last week I had to have my car towed to the dealer because I was driving down the road and a 3rd spark plug on the driver's side "fell out". The dealer told me the plug must have just worked it's way out and they replaced it and sent me on my way.

Today I'm driving home, and all of a sudden I hear the same horrible sound eminating from under my hood. I pull over immediately knowing that my spark plug came out again. What I can't understand is why this would happen. Can anyone please give me some advice on why and how this is happening? Is this a harbinger of serious issues and repair costs? I'm somewhat freaking out. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I had the same problem with a sea-doo I had. It was a twin cylinder and I only had the problem on the one cylinder. The threads were fine. I thought maybe the anti-seize was causing it somehow, so I cleaned it good and put it in without anti-seize. It still did the same thing. I would tighten it enough that I thought the threads would come out if I went one more inch pound (they have aluminum heads too). I finally put some blue Loctite on it and it stayed in. I was also able to get it out later without any problem.

I'm not saying to do this, because a sea-doo head is a lot cheaper than a corvette head, and I just fixed the symptom and not the problem, but it worked for me and the sea-doo motor turned higher rpms and had a higher compression ratio. Heli-coil is probably the best way to go for a permanent fix.

Here is a definition of blue Loctite:
Blue Removable No. 242, 243, 246, 248, 2432 & 2440 - Used for things you may want to unscrew with minimal hassle. It cures into a brittle, glassy bond that takes one good twist to break, but removes cleanly after that. Preferably to be used with Valve Covers, Water Pumps and Oil Pan Bolts.

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There is a proper torque on the spark plug, 15 lb-ft I believe on the 2nd and up installation. I would pull the plug and try and inspect the head and the plug (plug may have aluminum in the threads). Count the number of turns required to remove the plug and then pull the plug in front of it (#3) and count the turns. If you find out the bad one is say 5 turns and the good one is 10 turns then you will have an indication the plug is likely cross threaded until tight but incorrectly installed. There is a thread chaser you can buy, but without a borescope I would be afraid to do this because you need to make sure there are not chips left in the cylinder. You may need to pull the head to correct this (may be a good time for upgraded heads).
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