C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

C5 Overheating.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 20, 2007 | 06:08 PM
  #1  
peterc5oz's Avatar
peterc5oz
Thread Starter
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Default C5 Overheating.

Wondering if I can get some advice .
I have a C5 with D1SC Procharger ,forged and stroked to 383 .
heavy duty aluminium radiator with built in engine oil cooler.
First hot day and it overheated . The state I live in can have extremely hot weather.Fans are working okay , high quality coolant etc.
Any suggestions ? Should I disconnect oil cooler lines and run external oil cooler. I have the Procharger intercoolers so air flow to radiator is not obstructed but I wonder if the changed angle of the radiator is contributing to the problem .The radiator is angled further back due to the new Procharger cradle.
Would removing some heat from the engine bay help . Perhaps better airflow through radiator and out through some vents???
Any advice or thoughts would be greatly appreciated .
Thanks in advance . Peter ...Australia
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:14 PM
  #2  
'VETTE PHASE's Avatar
'VETTE PHASE
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,167
Likes: 11
From: Powell TN
Cruise-In VIII Veteran
Default

How old is the thermostat?
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:39 PM
  #3  
peterc5oz's Avatar
peterc5oz
Thread Starter
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Default

Thermostat is new...but that doesn't mean it is functioning properly.

I will have a look at it.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:51 PM
  #4  
BlackZ06's Avatar
BlackZ06
Safety Car
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 4,933
Likes: 30
From: San Rafael CA
Default Is it REALLY overheating

What do you mean when you say the car is "overheating" ???

The LSx engines are designed by GM Powertrain to run much "hotter" than a lot of people expect. From the Service Manual about the cooling fans ...

The low speed cooling fan is commanded on when the coolant temperature reaches 108°C (226°F). It is turned off if the coolant temperature lowers to 104°C (219°F). The high speed cooling fan is commanded on when the coolant temperature reaches 113°C (235°F). It is turned off if the coolant temperature lowers to 108°C (226°F). When the A/C is on and the coolant temperature reaches 85°C (185°F), the low speed cooling fan will be turned on at vehicle speeds less than 56 kPh (35 mph).

Also, unless you have modified the PCM programming, the car has a built in "Engine Over-Temp Protection Mode". You can read about it in your Owner's Manual.

Reply
Old Oct 21, 2007 | 01:52 AM
  #5  
AVB's Avatar
AVB
Safety Car
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,932
Likes: 8
From: Hayward California
Default

If you don't have a shroud sealing all sides of the radiator and forcing all air to go through and not around, you should. If it's overheating when just driving normal then you should confirm radiator and the AC condensor is clean of debris.

Arnel
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2007 | 03:33 AM
  #6  
peterc5oz's Avatar
peterc5oz
Thread Starter
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Default

Car is certainly overheating as when I stopped coolant was boiling out of overflow tank.

I will look at air flow and seal off any air gaps around radiator .
I will also disconnect oil coler lines from radiator and connect external oil cooler. I never really liked the idea of using the radiator to cool the engine oil .It must be putting a lot of heat back into the cooling system.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2007 | 03:37 AM
  #7  
peterc5oz's Avatar
peterc5oz
Thread Starter
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by AVB
If you don't have a shroud sealing all sides of the radiator and forcing all air to go through and not around, you should. If it's overheating when just driving normal then you should confirm radiator and the AC condensor is clean of debris.

Arnel
AVB THAT IS ONE WILD LOOKING ENGINE BAY.....
WHAT RADIATOR ARE YOU RUNNING AND HAVE YOU HAD ANY COOLING PROBLEMS?
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2007 | 08:24 AM
  #8  
AU N EGL's Avatar
AU N EGL
Team Owner
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 43,084
Likes: 33
From: Raleigh / Rolesville NC
Default

Originally Posted by peterc5oz
Car is certainly overheating as when I stopped coolant was boiling out of overflow tank.

I will look at air flow and seal off any air gaps around radiator .
I will also disconnect oil coler lines from radiator and connect external oil cooler. I never really liked the idea of using the radiator to cool the engine oil .It must be putting a lot of heat back into the cooling system.

Check you radiator for dirt, grass, plastic bags, or dead wallabies. Take a high pressure air hose or water hose and spay out those radiators.

It does not take much dirt or sand to block up the radiators.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-9

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Oct 21, 2007 | 09:12 AM
  #9  
Oldvetter's Avatar
Oldvetter
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 6,937
Likes: 21
From: Waldorf MD
Default

Make sure your pressure cap is good on overflow tank. If it leaks you will boil over at about 212 F. What temperature are you boiling over at?
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2007 | 11:33 AM
  #10  
MagRedConv's Avatar
MagRedConv
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 21,915
Likes: 61
From: Miami Beach FL
Default

I have a stock (sans exaust & a K&N) '98. I was realising temps of 235 on a daily basis for the past four months. I read quite a few threads in the forum with the ususal answer being "Our cars run hot; the fans come on at.....) Bull&*^%. My waterpump was on the fritz with absolutely no indication. I had it replaced and now I'm 201 in Texas.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2007 | 11:40 AM
  #11  
AVB's Avatar
AVB
Safety Car
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,932
Likes: 8
From: Hayward California
Default

Originally Posted by peterc5oz
AVB THAT IS ONE WILD LOOKING ENGINE BAY.....
WHAT RADIATOR ARE YOU RUNNING AND HAVE YOU HAD ANY COOLING PROBLEMS?
Thanks


I've had my share The good thing is, you shouldn't have as hard a time as I have.

As for the shroud... without one, if I pushed hard and tried to keep it under load, it would get hot enough to back off. If it were 110* plus ambient, it would sit at 220 and never lower. Again, in the streets.

Once I got the shroud in, it was a whole different story. I could go as hard as I wanted in the streets and actually stay cooler compared to some NA setups. I also run a DeWitts without the EOC since I run two externals inline.

My recent change was moving the intercooler out from in front of radiator to help road course duties. It also makes use of an extractor hood.



Arnel
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2007 | 12:51 PM
  #12  
Tom@Dewitt's Avatar
0Tom@Dewitt
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 5,593
Likes: 631
From: Brighton
Default

Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
If you are running just water the boiling point is 212 without the pressure cap. However with a 50/50 mix of anti-freeze and water the boiling point is something like 265 without the pressure cap. However the ability of the 50/50 mix to carry off heat is not as great as plain water (little consolation if your engine wants to run above 220). IMHO I would be running at least a partial mix of water and anti-freeze to get the boiling point above 212 then make sure the pressure cap is holding the proper pressure. Pressure adds about 1 degree per pound to the boil point.
You nailed that one perfectly

Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Seems like it is Detroits cheap-out solution rather than using an external cooler. I find the external cooler preferrable if you really want draw the heat off the engine. Applying a temp of 20 +
degrees above the coolant temp to the coolant doesn't make any sense to me. I do understand that Detroits idea of reducing emissions is to run the engines HOT but I prefer to draw as much heat off the engine as I can. Chuck S. AKA 8VETTE7
Most peole don't understand the reason the trans oil coolers are in the radiator and come to that conclusion. The main reason is to "maintain" a constant temperature of the trans fluid regardless of the ambient temps. In the winter, trans fluid can be thicker and cause hard shifts and transmission damage. The main idea of the internal HE was to heat up quckly, maintain, and to cool down. Bowtie Overdrive tells me that when they started using internal coolers their warranty claims virtually went away. For the hard core racers, I suggest running both external and internal, in that order. First the air cools it down, then the water heats it back up a little and brings it back to the tranny at the exact same temperature all the time. This also lowers the coolant temperature a little bit.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2007 | 01:55 PM
  #13  
rustyguns's Avatar
rustyguns
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,251
Likes: 16
From: Phoenix Arizona
Default

try different coolant mixtures and water wetter. i run about 10-15 percent coolant with 12 ounces of redline water wetter and it dropped my average temps 20 degrees with stock thermostat and radiator . plus when it does get hot to redline on the gauge and the check gauges light comes on ... i just back off the throttle and cruise at low rpms for about a minute and she cools back down and off i go again!. woohoo! haul *** !!!!!


never boils out of the tank...never. i think your water pump is fried
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2007 | 07:17 PM
  #14  
peterc5oz's Avatar
peterc5oz
Thread Starter
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks for all the input guys .
I will try a few things and see how it all goes.
HEY ...AU N EGL , One thing I didn't look for was a dead wallaby that I may have picked up . On second thoughts a wallaby wouldn't fit...hmm..IDEA ....CHECK FOR KOALA in air intake.
Regards to all ,
Peter ..AUSTRALIA
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2007 | 01:57 PM
  #15  
rustyguns's Avatar
rustyguns
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,251
Likes: 16
From: Phoenix Arizona
Default cooler now

guy from ls1tech.com did this:

Originally Posted by PewterZ28 View Post
FINALLY!

We got the Trick Flow heads on and temps dropped a lot. Right before we made the swap the temperature reached 230 with no signs of peaking. Of course we pulled over and left the electric pump running with the fans on and the engine off. After installing the Trick Flows the temps were only reaching 202 on a 20 mile drive on the highway. At idle temps would slowly fall back down into the 190s.

I still wasn't satisfied so I looked over everything one last time. I had already tried taking off my Super Sucker Ram Air while my stock radiator was on but I had not tried taking it off since installing the Be Cool radiator. Well, the Be Cool radiator is a lot thicker and it really closed up the already small gap in between the SSRA and the Be Cool. I know from past experience that blocking the radiator can cause overheating on the highway. So I thought what the hell and took it off just to see.

Now? How about 178* on the highway and holding steady! And my friend was able to meet up with me last night and get my car completely tuned on the street, part throttle and WOT. Tonight is the last night of racing at my local drag strip so I am really looking forward to it after a season long fiasco. I'm on my way to the dyno in a couple hours here so hopefully I put up some good numbers on the dyno and the strip. The car feels really strong.

Many thanks to everyone who helped with their hands or their minds.

I think in summary I had "the recipe" for overheating...clogged radiator, contaminated coolant, blocked coolant passages and finally a partially blocked radiator.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To C5 Overheating.





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:09 PM.

story-0
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-2
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-5
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-9
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE