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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Sounds like you have a battery issue. Not related to column lock hell.
No battery issue have a new optima the crank is strong ....someone said it may be a ignition switch..not sure...like to hear from others ...helppppppppp
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i am having the same freaking problem with my 98. i will be driving on the highway and the car would just die i have to pull over for a few seconds and started up again...well the last time it would not start and had to tow home ..now as i turn the key to try to start it i would get reduce engine power...service engine soon..check tire presure..the check engine light would be very dim...and i cant hear the fuel pump go on so the car does not start..it cranks but does not start and one of the relay is buzzing like hell in the engine compartment ..changed it with new but no help...helppppppp what the hell is the problem????????????
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What DTCs are you seeing when you get the reduced power issue?? Use the DIC and read the DTCs

I had the exact same issue and was ready to burn the damn car. Lucky for me and the insurance Co I figured out what was wrong.

Check out my stickey post. It will shed a LOT of light on your issue:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=896875

We can get this fixed. Between the TAC and bad grounds, you will be fine!

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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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What DTCs are you seeing when you get the reduced power issue?? Use the DIC and read the DTCs

I had the exact same issue and was ready to burn the damn car. Lucky for me and the insurance Co I figured out what was wrong.

Check out my stickey post. It will shed a LOT of light on your issue:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=896875

We can get this fixed. Between the TAC and bad grounds, you will be fine!

BC
I am not getting any codes when the reduce power/security/Check tire presure come on.. engine light is very dim..this happens as i try to turn the engine over...well as you know by now it cranks strong but wont start.....not hearing the fuel pump come on...i have sence taking the fuel pump replace it with a spare new one i had and still nothing DAMMNN The info on chassis grounding is very cool...i went throu that last year when i had the engine out and cleaned most of them... you mentioned replacing the BCM AND TAC Module? where are they? help on this if you can...I am about to burn this one...lol
thanks much
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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this column lock problem and gm's attempt to fix it has got to go into the books as one of the great auto blunders.
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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I am not getting any codes when the reduce power/security/Check tire presure come on.. engine light is very dim..this happens as i try to turn the engine over...well as you know by now it cranks strong but wont start.....not hearing the fuel pump come on...i have sence taking the fuel pump replace it with a spare new one i had and still nothing DAMMNN The info on chassis grounding is very cool...i went throu that last year when i had the engine out and cleaned most of them... you mentioned replacing the BCM AND TAC Module? where are they? help on this if you can...I am about to burn this one...lol
thanks much
Start by verifying the fuel pump. Check the fuse, relay and ground.

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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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When I had the VATS issue, it would not even start. I would turn the key and nothing, all just went dead. The security light would then flash, and I had to wait 5 minutes for it to reset before I could try to restart.
hey jeff it sounds like im having somewhat the same problem.......before as i am driving on the highway the security light would flash on the car would shut down..i would have to pull over wait a minute and start it up again....now the car will crank over but will not start at all....how did you get around to fixing the problem?
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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hey jeff it sounds like im having somewhat the same problem.......before as i am driving on the highway the security light would flash on the car would shut down..i would have to pull over wait a minute and start it up again....now the car will crank over but will not start at all....how did you get around to fixing the problem?
Leo,

Since you have a 98 see if you can find someone local with EFI live. All 97-98 are free for them to tune. Have them disable the column lock feature and that should eliminate that issue with fuel shut off and the car should start. Also if you go through your codes you should see a anti theft code I forgot the number.
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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I have a 99 MN6. I went to move my car yesterday, the steering locked and fuel was shut off. "Pull key and wait 10 seconds" displayed. Did as instructed, did not unlock column. I tried turning the wheel while inserting key, and also disconnecting/reconnecting battery, nothing seems to work. Checked the service history and contacted previous owner. The previous owner stated he never had a problem, but had the recall performed in 2001 and reprogramed in 2004. The service history shows:

09/26/2001 0743 - ECL RELAY HARNESS REPLACE 10343 miles

12/28/2004 V1145 - 04006 - PERFORM REPROGRAM AND FUNCTIONAL TEST - MANUALS ON 26379 miles

Since it shows the harness was replaced and reprogram has been done, what should I do at this point?
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by leo12
I am not getting any codes when the reduce power/security/Check tire presure come on.. engine light is very dim..this happens as i try to turn the engine over...well as you know by now it cranks strong but wont start.....not hearing the fuel pump come on...i have sence taking the fuel pump replace it with a spare new one i had and still nothing DAMMNN The info on chassis grounding is very cool...i went throu that last year when i had the engine out and cleaned most of them... you mentioned replacing the BCM AND TAC Module? where are they? help on this if you can...I am about to burn this one...lol
thanks much
97 & early 98s had defective TAC modules. They failed a lot and GM issued a TSB to dealers for replacement if they caused certain problems. Its a very good idea to replace the TAC module if you have an early 98 and even a mid year 98. My 98 was an early one and I had FREQUENT Reduced Engine Power problems. If the TAC module is causing you problems, you WILL have DTC!! Read the DTCs and see if you have any. If you go into Reduced Power, READ THE DTCs before you turn off the Ignition.

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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by My99Vet
I have a 99 MN6. I went to move my car yesterday, the steering locked and fuel was shut off. "Pull key and wait 10 seconds" displayed. Did as instructed, did not unlock column. I tried turning the wheel while inserting key, and also disconnecting/reconnecting battery, nothing seems to work. Checked the service history and contacted previous owner. The previous owner stated he never had a problem, but had the recall performed in 2001 and reprogramed in 2004. The service history shows:

09/26/2001 0743 - ECL RELAY HARNESS REPLACE 10343 miles

12/28/2004 V1145 - 04006 - PERFORM REPROGRAM AND FUNCTIONAL TEST - MANUALS ON 26379 miles

Since it shows the harness was replaced and reprogram has been done, what should I do at this point?

I had my 2001 coupe MN6, serviced for the original recall, 04006, three years ago. I got the service column lock message a couple of weeks ago and had to tow my car to the dealership! There is the updated recall on the forum if you search for it......it's now 04006C and GM fixed it at no charge!
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
97 & early 98s had defective TAC modules. They failed a lot and GM issued a TSB to dealers for replacement if they caused certain problems. Its a very good idea to replace the TAC module if you have an early 98 and even a mid year 98. My 98 was an early one and I had FREQUENT Reduced Engine Power problems. If the TAC module is causing you problems, you WILL have DTC!! Read the DTCs and see if you have any. If you go into Reduced Power, READ THE DTCs before you turn off the Ignition.

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Bill where is the TAC module to remove and replace?
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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Mine just did the same thing on Saturday when I went to visit my father an hour and an a half from home. This morning I called Chevrolets customer Service # and to my surprise they were very helpfull. They gave me the recall # 04006C, then a service request # and told me to call Chevrolet Roadside 1(800)243-8971 and they would tow my car to the dealership at no charge.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Now the dealer is trying to tell me the recall warranty only applies to 1997-2000 Corvettes equiped with automatic trans- EXPORT VEHICLES ONLY- which mine is apparently NOT

It seems they are just trying to find ways NOT TO HELP me instead of the other way around!

Never had this problem with my Toyotas.........
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by leo12
hey jeff it sounds like im having somewhat the same problem.......before as i am driving on the highway the security light would flash on the car would shut down..i would have to pull over wait a minute and start it up again....now the car will crank over but will not start at all....how did you get around to fixing the problem?
It does not sound like you are having the same issue mine did. Mine would not crank at all, it was as if the battery was completely dead. The problem was the key cylinder. Dealer replaced it.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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I bought mine used. After giving the lady I spoke with my vin # she was able to tell me that the recall had already been done on my car once by the first owner. And oh by the way mine is a M6. Keep fighting. Dont let THE MAN keep you down. Maybe you should call the same women I talked to at Chevrolet. Her # and extention is in my office. I will email it to you tomorrow. She had me on the phone for an hour but she was going back and fourth trying to help me the whole time.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Well, after numerous phone calls to GM customer service and the dealer that had my car..........GM IS PAYING FOR EVERYTHING



Moral to this story: DONT GIVE UP! When this first started last thursday, GM and the dealer were going to pay NOTHING....ZERO.....NADA

I guess I kept bugging them to the point they figured I wasn't going away without a fight. But....customer service shouldn't be that way in my opinion. I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling about GM right now, but at least I'm not getting butt *ucked for $540.00
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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Good to hear I knew you would walk away a winner!!!!
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
97 & early 98s had defective TAC modules. They failed a lot and GM issued a TSB to dealers for replacement if they caused certain problems. Its a very good idea to replace the TAC module if you have an early 98 and even a mid year 98. My 98 was an early one and I had FREQUENT Reduced Engine Power problems. If the TAC module is causing you problems, you WILL have DTC!! Read the DTCs and see if you have any. If you go into Reduced Power, READ THE DTCs before you turn off the Ignition.

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Well after checking the system here are some codes that i come up with
UNDER 10-PCM POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE
1) P1626-H theft deterrent system fuel enable

UNDER 28-TCS TRACTION CONTROL SYSTEM
1)C1255-H ..EBTCM internal malfuction
2) c1276-H deliverd torque signal CKT malfuction
3) U1255-H Generic loss communications

UNDER 40-BCM BODY CONTROL MODULE
1) U1255-H-C.. Serial data malfunction

UNDER HVAC
1) B0338 inside air temp sensor open

UNDER BO-RFA
1) U1096-H loss communication
2) U1255-H Serial data line malfunction

UNDER A6-SCM SEAT CONTROL MODULE
1) U1064-H ?

UNDER A0-LDCM LEFT DOOR CONTROL MODULE
1)U1064-H Loss of communications with BCM
2)U1096-H Loss of communications with IPC

UNDER AO-RDCM RIGHT DOOR CONTROL MODULE
1)U1064-H Loss of communications with BCM
2) U1096-H Loss of communications with IPC

Bill do you think the TAC needs to be replaced?/the problem of not starting? well i will start to clean all the grounds this week and hopefully the car will start...
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Originally Posted by leo12
Well after checking the system here are some codes that i come up with
UNDER 10-PCM POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE
1) P1626-H theft deterrent system fuel enable

UNDER 28-TCS TRACTION CONTROL SYSTEM
1)C1255-H ..EBTCM internal malfuction
2) c1276-H deliverd torque signal CKT malfuction
3) U1255-H Generic loss communications

UNDER 40-BCM BODY CONTROL MODULE
1) U1255-H-C.. Serial data malfunction

UNDER HVAC
1) B0338 inside air temp sensor open

UNDER BO-RFA
1) U1096-H loss communication
2) U1255-H Serial data line malfunction

UNDER A6-SCM SEAT CONTROL MODULE
1) U1064-H ?

UNDER A0-LDCM LEFT DOOR CONTROL MODULE
1)U1064-H Loss of communications with BCM
2)U1096-H Loss of communications with IPC

UNDER AO-RDCM RIGHT DOOR CONTROL MODULE
1)U1064-H Loss of communications with BCM
2) U1096-H Loss of communications with IPC

Bill do you think the TAC needs to be replaced?/the problem of not starting? well i will start to clean all the grounds this week and hopefully the car will start...

PLEASE!!! Clear ALL of those codes and try cranking it again. See what new ones come back. You have LOTS of NO COMMS and that isnt good

NO COMMS can be caused by the door harnesses. Have you checked them??? Here is a post that I replied to that explains the issue. The NO COMMS can and will cause a NO START condition:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1750226

Examine the connector and look for bare wires.

Then try it again

BC
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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PLEASE!!! Clear ALL of those codes and try cranking it again. See what new ones come back. You have LOTS of NO COMMS and that isnt good

NO COMMS can be caused by the door harnesses. Have you checked them??? Here is a post that I replied to that explains the issue. The NO COMMS can and will cause a NO START condition:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1750226

Examine the connector and look for bare wires.

Then try it again

BC
Well Bill after checking all the grounds i did find the one behind the Engine block was loose and dirty i cleaned it tightend up and bamm the fuel pump kicked on and the car started...i re-loosened and checked to make sure that was the problem and it was..it started doing axactly as before...while i was at this i cleaned the ground next to the batery for the fob ...and guess what the damnn fob that has not worked in two years started to sing ...i also took all the underhood grounds bunched then up into a hevy duty ring conectors solder then and drilled new holes on the frame...seems like the car has a new heart....thanks for all the great info on your site
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only one thing left the drivers door look when i push the button only unlocks the lock button no work..bad button?
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