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Torque Converter
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Le Mans Master
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From: Midland TX
Torque Converter
I am looking at the possibility of swapping out the Torque Converter on my stock 2001 LS1 Coupe.
I have read Patches posts on the Yank SS3200 so far. My questions are...
(1) What is the stall speed in the GM stock converter I have now?
(2) What would be a reasonable price to pay a transmission shop to make this swap?
(3) The transmission shop I am considering was recommending Pro Torque brand. How does this compare to Yank and do they have something comparable to the SS3200?
(4) Do I need to make any other modifications to see the benefits of a new converter?
I never take the car on the track - it is for sprited street driving only. Reliability and smoothness is paramount.
I have read Patches posts on the Yank SS3200 so far. My questions are...
(1) What is the stall speed in the GM stock converter I have now?
(2) What would be a reasonable price to pay a transmission shop to make this swap?
(3) The transmission shop I am considering was recommending Pro Torque brand. How does this compare to Yank and do they have something comparable to the SS3200?
(4) Do I need to make any other modifications to see the benefits of a new converter?
I never take the car on the track - it is for sprited street driving only. Reliability and smoothness is paramount.
Drifting
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From: South al
I am looking at the possibility of swapping out the Torque Converter on my stock 2001 LS1 Coupe.
I have read Patches posts on the Yank SS3200 so far. My questions are...
(1) What is the stall speed in the GM stock converter I have now?
(2) What would be a reasonable price to pay a transmission shop to make this swap?
(3) The transmission shop I am considering was recommending Pro Torque brand. How does this compare to Yank and do they have something comparable to the SS3200?
(4) Do I need to make any other modifications to see the benefits of a new converter?
I never take the car on the track - it is for sprited street driving only. Reliability and smoothness is paramount.
I have read Patches posts on the Yank SS3200 so far. My questions are...
(1) What is the stall speed in the GM stock converter I have now?
(2) What would be a reasonable price to pay a transmission shop to make this swap?
(3) The transmission shop I am considering was recommending Pro Torque brand. How does this compare to Yank and do they have something comparable to the SS3200?
(4) Do I need to make any other modifications to see the benefits of a new converter?
I never take the car on the track - it is for sprited street driving only. Reliability and smoothness is paramount.
Le Mans Master
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From: CA.
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I was told the same thing--1400-1600 is stock--driveability issues can arise with stall over 2800 so be prepared for it to drive alot different then stock--ALSO a tranny cooler is a must with any stall converter--AND a tune is neccessary to elimiante false codes and limp modes --misfire tables must be adjusted--PWM table--TQ mngmt tables
I've heard good things about Pro Torque--What I learned was to keep away from the smaller diameter converters if you are mostly going to street drive the car--When going to smaller diam converters--the TCC clutch is so small that it creates problems in the long run--such as overheating--popping in & out of lock-up--i went with a standard size 12" re-manufactured converter and love the way it works--on the street you can hardly tell its in there--but when you romp on it ---it comes alives--and no overheating and the TCC clutch works flawlessly--(phoenix transmissions converter--2600 stall) $319--
I've heard good things about Pro Torque--What I learned was to keep away from the smaller diameter converters if you are mostly going to street drive the car--When going to smaller diam converters--the TCC clutch is so small that it creates problems in the long run--such as overheating--popping in & out of lock-up--i went with a standard size 12" re-manufactured converter and love the way it works--on the street you can hardly tell its in there--but when you romp on it ---it comes alives--and no overheating and the TCC clutch works flawlessly--(phoenix transmissions converter--2600 stall) $319--
Le Mans Master
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Check out this post on Torque Converters.
I think this is what you may be looking for.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...que+converters
I think this is what you may be looking for.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...que+converters
Last edited by SLPRC5; Nov 2, 2007 at 02:35 AM.
Team Owner
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From: Palmdale, Ca----- 2009 Cyber Gray 4LT A6 F55 452 RWHP 422 RWTQ- RIP 1998 C5 734 RWHP & 585 RWTQ-----
Stock is 1600 RPM Stall
I even have a YANK 3200 and now it's better for my application but for your application I'd go with a YANK 2800 Stall http://www.converter.cc/converters/street/GM/2/main.htm and you'd be real happy with it! I would not go any larger!
Swap price should be about $300.00 just find and ask around for a good reputable shop in your area!
Thanks,Matt
I even have a YANK 3200 and now it's better for my application but for your application I'd go with a YANK 2800 Stall http://www.converter.cc/converters/street/GM/2/main.htm and you'd be real happy with it! I would not go any larger!
Swap price should be about $300.00 just find and ask around for a good reputable shop in your area!
Thanks,Matt
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Drifting
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From: South al
Stock is 1600 RPM Stall
I even have a YANK 3200 and now it's better for my application but for your application I'd go with a YANK 2800 Stall http://www.converter.cc/converters/street/GM/2/main.htm and you'd be real happy with it! I would not go any larger!
Swap price should be about $300.00 just find and ask around for a good reputable shop in your area!
Thanks,Matt
I even have a YANK 3200 and now it's better for my application but for your application I'd go with a YANK 2800 Stall http://www.converter.cc/converters/street/GM/2/main.htm and you'd be real happy with it! I would not go any larger!
Swap price should be about $300.00 just find and ask around for a good reputable shop in your area!
Thanks,Matt
Le Mans Master
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From: Hillsboro OR
Stock is 1600 RPM Stall
I even have a YANK 3200 and now it's better for my application but for your application I'd go with a YANK 2800 Stall http://www.converter.cc/converters/street/GM/2/main.htm and you'd be real happy with it! I would not go any larger!
Swap price should be about $300.00 just find and ask around for a good reputable shop in your area!
Thanks,Matt
I even have a YANK 3200 and now it's better for my application but for your application I'd go with a YANK 2800 Stall http://www.converter.cc/converters/street/GM/2/main.htm and you'd be real happy with it! I would not go any larger!
Swap price should be about $300.00 just find and ask around for a good reputable shop in your area!
Thanks,Matt
I did not install a trans cooler. I haven't seen the trans temp go over 200 degrees.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Midland TX
Stock is 1600 RPM Stall
I even have a YANK 3200 and now it's better for my application but for your application I'd go with a YANK 2800 Stall http://www.converter.cc/converters/street/GM/2/main.htm and you'd be real happy with it! I would not go any larger!
Swap price should be about $300.00 just find and ask around for a good reputable shop in your area!
Thanks,Matt
I even have a YANK 3200 and now it's better for my application but for your application I'd go with a YANK 2800 Stall http://www.converter.cc/converters/street/GM/2/main.htm and you'd be real happy with it! I would not go any larger!
Swap price should be about $300.00 just find and ask around for a good reputable shop in your area!
Thanks,Matt
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Le Mans Master
Joined: May 2006
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From: Midland TX
Check out this post on Torque Converters.
I think this is what you may be looking for.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...que+converters
I think this is what you may be looking for.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...que+converters
Thanks - I am looking into this option as well.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Midland TX
So, sounds like I am looking at about $600 - $900 to swap this out.
Additional questions:
(1) Would this be that noticible with a stock engine?
(2) Does it put any additional strain on a particular system?
(3) Does it affect GMPP Extended warranty?
(4) Do I really NEED a transmission cooler with a 2,800 or lower stall? If so, what does that add to the cost?
(5) Do I need to have anything re-programmed following this change? If so, do transmission shops do this?
Additional questions:
(1) Would this be that noticible with a stock engine?
(2) Does it put any additional strain on a particular system?
(3) Does it affect GMPP Extended warranty?
(4) Do I really NEED a transmission cooler with a 2,800 or lower stall? If so, what does that add to the cost?
(5) Do I need to have anything re-programmed following this change? If so, do transmission shops do this?
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there is a converter that doesn't require an external cooler:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1715694
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1715694
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Le Mans Master
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From: Midland TX
there is a converter that doesn't require an external cooler:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1715694
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1715694
I have narrowed it down I think between the one you recommend and the Yank 2800 if I make the swap.
Team Owner
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From: Palmdale, Ca----- 2009 Cyber Gray 4LT A6 F55 452 RWHP 422 RWTQ- RIP 1998 C5 734 RWHP & 585 RWTQ-----
You will keep your stock converter and take it home and store it! WHY?
Well because no matter what you do you always keep your stock things just incase you want or need to sell your Vette you'll have the stock pieces to offer as well which will up the resale value of the Vette!
No you don't always need a external cooler for the new stall converter-even with mine I don't need one because when you go for drives it is in lock-up!
However if you are going to race, race, race all the time and be hammering it everywhere you go you might think of an extra cooler!
(5) Do I need to have anything re-programmed following this change? If so, do transmission shops do this?You might consider changing you shift pressures and shift points from stock with a handheld tuner or having your tuner change it for you! (I'd do the handheld if you have one!)
Thanks,Matt
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Check out this post on Torque Converters.
I think this is what you may be looking for.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...que+converters
I think this is what you may be looking for.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...que+converters
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Le Mans Master
Joined: May 2006
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From: Midland TX