Rev Limiter Question...
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From: Alcoa TN
Re: Rev Limiter Question... (RedLandRocket)
Cute reply, but not typically a difficult task to pick on a 190-229hp 2.5L straight six car that weighs 3100 lbs. Sort of like Lennox Lewis picking on a middle schooler and then bragging about it to try to stir the middle schooler's parents into a fight. Stick to the autocross lies, they sound better anyway. :confused:
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Joined: Nov 2001
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From: Alcoa TN
Re: Rev Limiter Question... (RedLandRocket)
Here are some real results for you to compare. Welcome head to head autocross runs if you are interested. makard is Mike Akard.
Last event East Tennessee Regional:
Ranked by time:
Class Number Name Car Time #10 Index
fp 3 Mike Akard 87 325is 52.255 9 45.357
as 95 Mack Fraser 2001 Honda S2000 53.073 9 43.520
as 22 John Bishop 84 911 53.356 6 43.752
sm 69 Tony Bolton 1996 Acura Integra 53.373 9 44.620
pro 33 Mark Pilson - FSP 1979 VW Scirocco 53.458 6 43.622
csp 211 Brent Eddy 1999 Mazda Miata 53.849 9 45.233
esp 99 David Morrison 1997 Mustang Cobra 53.911 9 44.477
as 195 Keith Davenport 2001 S2000 53.934 4 44.226
bsp 32 Mark Noakes 1986 Corvette 53.943 9 45.204
pro 13 Lyonel Kent - GS 2000 Integra Type R 54.445 9 43.229
ep 59 Mike Washington 88 M3 54.568 9 47.310
bs 57 Allen Sanders 99 Miata 54.686 9 44.405
dp 29 Gary Lownsdale 1962 Sprite 54.991 9 46.797
csp 212 James Hill 1999 Mazda Miata 55.140 6 46.318
ss 123 Wayne Kickels 96 Corvette 55.158 9 45.726
csp 84 David Disney 1984 Mazda Rx-7 55.365 4 46.507
ss 94 Chad Falk 94 Vette 55.611 6 46.102
ss 0 Michael Grande 99 996 55.652 4 46.136
ss 13 Michael Lesmerises Mazda Rx-7 55.922 3 46.359
csp 48 David Dillow 1984 Mazda Rx-7 55.989 3 47.031
csp 11 Kurt Torres 1990 Civic 56.168 2 47.181
sts 29 Adam Ezell Honda Prelude 56.218 9 43.962
sts 10 Doug Allen 1999 Honda Civic SI 56.773 6 44.396
gsl 13 Danielle Kent 2000 Integra 57.094 9 45.333
str 54 Jared Suter 1997 Honda Civic DX 57.124 9 46.556
sts 16 Steven Hobbs 1994 Honda Accord 57.818 4 45.214
fs 13 Mack S. Elliot II 1998 Mustang GT 57.982 9 46.907
dp 32 Charlie Lownsdale 62 Sprite 58.057 6 49.407
dsp 10 Daniel Niel 2000 Celica GTS 58.081 9 47.743
csp 21 Buddy Ahlers 1991 Miata 58.118 1 48.819
fs 4 Steve Waters 1986 Chevy Camaro 58.162 6 47.053
as 2 Robert Berry 84 911 58.229 3 47.748
ssl 47 Allison Von Gruenigen 2001 Corvette 58.245 9 48.285
gs 3 Bill Lenihan 98 C280 58.595 9 46.524
sts 7 Mark Mangusson 87 325is 58.673 3 45.882
esp 10 John McGrath 1988 Chrysler Conquest 58.699 6 48.427
dp 63 Rich Miller 58 Sprite 58.939 4 50.157
csp 1 Phillip Harris 1991 Miata 58.942 1 49.511
csp 111 David Smith 1984 Rx-7 58.970 1 49.535
bsp 111 Russell Bukner 1986 Corvette 59.032 6 49.469
dp 15 Jim Stockburger 1988 323 GTX 59.216 3 50.393
csp 12 Mark McCrary 1992 Mazda Miata 59.229 1 49.752
as 951 C Noble 87 944 59.230 2 48.569
sts 9 Jackie Alexander 2001 Celica 59.340 2 46.404
csp 68 David Niemann 1990 CRX SI 59.388 1 49.886
es 71 Hart Kaudewitz 1998 Plymouth Neon 59.451 9 46.610
as 3 Jim Klonarn 2000 S2000 59.464 1 48.760
esp 17 Chad Collier Merkur XR4TI 59.711 4 49.262
bsp 11 Jeff McBehee 1985 Corvette 59.943 4 50.232
sts 20 Andy Howard 92 Prelude 59.966 1 46.893
cp 7 Charlie Valentine 1983 Capri 59.975 9 51.099
pro 98 Ronald Hurst - CP 67 Mustang 59.992 4 51.113
sts 47 Dewey L. Foulk, Jr. 1988 Ford Escort GT 60.252 1 47.117
sts 54 Chuck Moore BMW 325is 60.615 1 47.401
fs 44 Wesley Johnson 96 Z28 60.625 4 49.046
bs 79 Dick Hancock 96 Miata 60.969 6 49.507
fp 8 Scott Gibson 72 914 60.978 6 52.929
sts 30 Stuart Gibson 2000 Golf 61.298 1 47.935
hs 12 George Murphy 89 300E 61.350 9 47.792
gs 8 Mark Nienaber 2002 Impreza 61.612 6 48.920
bs 70 Mark Royer 97 BMW Z3 61.613 4 50.030
es 321 Brian White 93 Celica GT 62.067 6 48.661
ds 2 Dave Yoder 87 X19 62.564 9 49.801
sts 81 Nathan Peters 2000 Prelude 62.596 1 48.950
hs 37 Carlton McGee 97 Civic EX 62.668 6 48.818
fsp 9 Mike McMillan 1966 Weseley Hornet 62.879 9 51.309
sts 77 John Arnold 88 M3 62.969 1 49.242
gsl 10 Cathy McGrath 87 Conquest 62.984 6 50.009
dpl 2 Paulette Lownsdale 62 Sprite 63.071 9 53.673
es 43 Zachary Wyatt 95 MX-6 63.431 4 49.730
as 13 Cliff Gibbs 2001 S2000 63.841 1 52.350
es 7 Kristen Kaudewitz Integra 64.019 3 50.191
sm 62 BJ Gardner 2001 Civic 64.587 6 53.995
bs 37 Travis Housewright 97 Miata 64.770 3 52.593
sts 311 Thomas Hitch 99 Civic 64.774 1 50.653
fsp 44 Richard Cannida 1993 Mirage 65.672 6 53.588
ssl 123 Joyce Kickels 96 Corvette 65.882 6 54.616
es 17 Matt Zardni 86 CRX SI 67.982 2 53.298
ap 31 Lee Hamner 1965 AC Cobra dnf 0 dnf
Mid-Season East Tennessee Regional:
Ranked by time:
Class No. Car Name Time #5 Index
FP 03 325is Mike Akard 33.168 28.790
STM 69 Integra Tony Bolton 34.662 28.977
CSP 84 Rx-7 David Disney 35.192 29.561
BSP 32 Corvette Mark Noakes 35.344 29.618
AS 9 911 Deems Riddle 35.427 29.050
PRO 99 CRX Robert Carpenter - CSP 35.504 29.823
CSP 65 Miata Randy Finley 35.703 29.991
ESP 99 Mustang Cobra David Morrison 35.925 29.638
SS 0 911 Michael Grande 36.118 29.942
AS 11 911 SC Tommy Wilson 36.266 29.738
EP 59 BMW M3 Mike Washington 36.363 31.527
PRO 99 Mustang Ron Hurst - CP 36.613 31.194
CSP 12 Miata Mark McCrary 36.626 30.766
CSP 48 Rx-7 David Dillow 36.693 30.822
GS 13 325is John Capito 36.819 29.234
BS 911 Miata Jason Ford 37.140 30.158
SS 13 Mazda Rx-7 Michael Lesmeris 37.167 30.811
STS 71 Neon Hart Kaudewitz 37.214 29.101
DP 32 Sprite Charlie Lownsdale 37.314 31.754
AS 13 S2000 Cliff Gibbs 37.434 30.696
STS 16 Accord Steven Hobbs 37.657 29.448
CSP 68 CRX David Niemann 37.729 31.692
FS 4 Camaro Steve Waters 37.770 30.556
DSP 54 325is Chuck Moore 37.819 31.087
STS 10 Civic Doug Allen 37.908 29.644
AS 38 Audi S4 Scott Branson 37.933 31.105
STR 54 Civic Jared Suter 37.979 30.953
AS 96 Corvette Wayne Kickels 37.992 31.153
ES 2 NX 2000 Dave Yoder 38.053 29.834
DP 29 Sprite Gary Lownsdale 38.171 32.484
STS 17 Neon Kristen Kaudewitz 38.294 29.946
AS 14 3000 GT Sean Johnson 38.395 31.484
EP 29 BMW M3 Kevin Nichols 38.418 33.308
BS 31 Miata Lee Hamner 38.535 31.290
STS 29 Prelude Adam Ezell 38.738 30.293
CSP 71 VW Golf Scott Lusted 38.827 32.615
AS 78 911 Jim Marsh 38.855 31.861
ESP 89 Mustang Tom Frye 38.918 32.107
STS 47 Escort GT Dewey Foulk 39.014 30.509
BS 38 Miata Jeff Kirkland 39.167 31.804
STS 13 Tiburon John Baird 39.348 30.770
AS 53 3000 GT John McGrath 39.518 32.405
GS 62 Impreza Matthew Shreve 39.757 31.567
GS 82 Audi A4 Jesse Todd 40.017 31.773
CSP 25 CRX Matthew Claytor 40.138 33.716
ASL 9 911 Vicki Riddle 40.294 33.041
ESP 91 Mustang Brian Tollefsen 40.484 33.399
FS 13 Mustang Mack Elliot 40.593 32.840
ES 86 Accord Jeff Stansberry 41.085 32.211
BSP 72 Corvette Hobie Rice 41.437 34.724
STS 66 Civic Matt McConlley 41.706 32.614
DPL 2 Sprite Paulette Lownsdale 41.737 35.518
ASL 53 3000 GT Helen McGrath 41.767 34.249
ASL 96 Corvette Joyce Kickels 42.401 34.769
ESP 9 Weseley Mike McMillan 42.773 35.288
GS 57 Saab 93 Kathryn McKissick 42.941 34.095
STS 21 Sentra Ashley McKinney 45.987 35.962
Opening Event East Tennessee Regional:
Ranked by time:
Class No. Car Name Time #1 Index
FP 3 325is Mike Akard 35.383 30.606
PRO 91 911 Lee Kent - ASP 35.610 30.090
PRO 96 MR2 MKI John Brown - DP 35.838 30.498
PRO 33 Scirocco Mark Pilson - FSP 36.522 29.802
PRO 15 Civic Lyonel Kent - CSP 37.412 31.426
PRO 112 Miata Robert Carpenter - CSP 37.428 31.440
CSPL 15 Civic Danielle Lanca 37.490 31.642
BSP 4 Corvette Russell Buckner 37.549 31.804
CSP 65 Miata Randy Finley 37.610 31.743
FM 23 Bobsy Larry Hunt 37.808 34.178
BS 79 Miata Dick Hancock 38.056 30.940
STM 69 Integra Tony Bolton 38.168 31.870
CSP 84 Rx-7 David Disney 38.226 32.263
STM 77 Civic Mark Magnusson 38.635 32.260
ESP 99 Mustang Cobra David Morrison 38.899 31.975
STS 71 Neon Hart Kaudewitz 39.073 30.555
CSP 12 Miata Mark McCrary 39.208 33.092
CSP 71 Miata Jason Anderson 39.391 33.246
DP 3 Sprite Gary Lownsdale 39.395 33.604
STS 16 Accord Steven Hobbs 39.595 30.963
FP 7 Volvo M. Ward 39.650 34.297
AP 11 Rx-7 Rob Seneker 39.656 34.659
AS 95 S2000 Mack Frasier 39.844 32.553
CP 15 Mustang Gary Henkel 39.858 34.118
AS 13 S2000 Cliff Gibbs 39.909 32.606
BP 144 Daytona Jamie Kerr 40.132 34.995
BSP 32 Corvette Mark Noakes 40.194 34.044
STS 10 Civic Doug Allen 40.249 31.475
GS 13 BMW 325 John Capio 40.444 31.910
BS 23 VW GTI Randy Griffin 40.580 32.992
FSP 12 Sentra Steven Peters 40.710 33.179
ASP 77 Rx-7 David Dillow 40.778 34.743
DP 63 Sprite Rich Miller 40.825 34.824
BS 111 Miata Jim Stockburger 40.848 33.209
ES 5 Talon Josh Carmley 40.962 32.196
PRO 6 Mustang Ron Hurst - CP 40.969 34.906
STS 86 Escort GT Dewey Foulk 40.970 32.039
CSP 29 Miata Dan Hill 41.171 34.748
DP 37 Sprite Charlie Lownsdale 41.352 35.273
CSP 55 Civic Brian Morris 41.394 34.937
CSP 155 Civic David Niemann 41.399 34.941
STM 08 Civic Kevin Cody 41.439 34.602
STS 54 Civic Jared Suter 41.583 32.518
GS 15 VW GTI William Miller 42.116 33.230
ESP 10 Conquest John McGrath 42.142 34.641
STS 17 Neon Kristen Kaudewitz 42.229 33.023
BS 31 Miata Lee Hamner 42.389 34.462
CS 85 MR2 Tyler Greene 42.414 34.101
CP 7 Capri Charlie Valentine 42.857 36.686
ES 66 Civic Matt McCanlley 42.940 33.751
FS 13 Mustang Mack Elliot 43.182 34.848
ESP 17 XR4TI Chad Collier 43.301 35.593
CSP 27 CRX Michael Suttles 43.839 37.000
BP 44 Daytona Benjamin Jordan 43.894 38.276
DS 25 CRX Matt Clayton 44.410 35.350
FS 4 Camaro Steve Waters 44.845 36.190
GS 20 VW Corrado Brian McCrary 45.516 35.912
SS 14 Corvette David Hill 45.880 38.080
GS 11 Conquest Jeremy Mays 45.902 36.217
DP 9 Sprite Mike McMillan 46.379 39.561
DPL 7 Sprite Paulette Lownsdale 48.665 39.857
BS 11 Miata Hazel Tucker 63.182 51.367
ROAD RACING RESULTS from 2001 listed in final points postion order for South Atlantic Road Racing Championships (SARRC) series:
Final 2001 SARRC Points Out Div drivers deleted VIR HO Seb Seb AT VIR MO MO RO RO VIR VIR CMS CMS LO MO AT DA DA AT AT SI
#- Trophy positions best total 10 11 11 2 3 3 3 3 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 7 7 8 8 9 9 9
CLASS DRIVER CAR REG 6/SIC pts 21 19 26 25 4 18 24 25 28 29 12 13 26 27 23 15 28 4 5 1 2 30
SPO 221562 HENRY GILBERT PORSCHE 930 # FLA 90 94 1 1 6 1 1 4 1 1
SPO 274113 HARTMUT VONSEELEN PORSCHE 911 RSR # CCR 84 90 1 1 1 4 1 2 2 2
SPO 272456 MIKE AKARD BMW 325 IS # ETR 43 43 3 3 2 8 4 4
SPO 235033 JIM KELLOGG TAURUS # ATL 39 39 3 2 5 6 DS 9 5 6
SPO 258827 GRANT WELLS BMW 325I # ATL 30 30 1 4 1 DF
SPO 280788 DAN SHAVER PONTIAC SUNFIRE # CCR 28 28 2 DF 1 3
SPO 239261 CHARLES W VAUGHN FORD TAURUS NCR 28 28 4 2 DF 7 DS 5
SPO 204078 ROBERT JONES LOVILL III PORSCHE 914-6 NCR 27 27 5 DS 2 3 4
SPO 276013 CHUCK PIAZZA OLDS CUTLASS CCR 27 27 2 DF 4 1
SPO 247265 TOM VLASAK PORSCHE 911 DIX 21 21 5 2 10 6 12 7
SPO 149949 CHARLES WICHT CHEVY CAMARO FLA 21 21 5 DF 3 2 DS DS
SPO 255390 JACK JONES CORVETTE ETR 21 21 1 2
SPO 244894 BOB MACK PORSCHE RSR FLA 19 19 3 1
SPO 274636 ORLANDO NUGUEIRA SUPRA FLA 19 19 1 DF 6 7
SPO 291289 ARTIE MALESCI FORD MUSTANG FLA 18 18 3 4 5
SPO 280774 MARK BUTTERY MAZDA RX7 FLA 17 17 3 6 4
SPO 164338 DARIO ORLANDO FORD MUSTANG FLA 16 16 2 DF 3
SPO 141174 BILL BEAN PORSCHE 930 TUR CFR 16 16 2 3
SPO 239564 CHARLES LEE CHEVY CORVETTE FLA 16 16 6 4 DQ 6 8 DF
SPO 219833 BOB HUMPHREYS GRAND PRIX CCR 14 14 DF 2 5 DF
SPO 240196 MARGIE LAPAOJA CHEVY CORVETTE CFR 13 13 3 4
SPO 289209 DAVID G MUNN TVR 2000 NCR 12 12 DS DS 1
SPO 268655 SCOOTER GABEL FORD MUSTANG CFR 12 12 1
SPO 258713 DALE CALDWELL DATSUN 510 ATL 11 11 6 3
SPO 206999 DAVID OGBURN CHEVY MONTECARL CFR 11 11 4 5
SPO 259037 MIKE MITCHELL PORSCHE 911 CFR 10 10 3 11 7
SPO 280290 JEFF WADE PORSCHE 944T9 ATL 9 9 5 13 6
SPO 236293 DON FLANAGAN PORSCHE 933 CFR 9 9 2
SPO 223910 HENRY VANVURST DODGE VIPER CFR 9 9 2
SPO 206955 JOHN BOURASSA PORSCHE FLA 9 9 2
SPO 272760 JOHANNES STEINER BMW M-3 CFR 9 9 2
SPO 294377 KURT ECKART CHEVY CAMARO CFR 8 8 7 5
SPO 279177 ROBERT KOLLAR BMW M3 ATL 7 7 3 DF
SPO 247103 TODD COURY LEE CHEVY CORVETTE FLA 7 7 3
SPO 250656 BILL RICHTER FORD MUSTANG FLA 7 7 DS 5 8
SPO 251468 BUDDY HENDRICKS PORSCHE 933 CFR 6 6 4
SPO 287450 PHIL SIMMS FORD MUSTANG CFR 6 6 4
SPO 275313 WARREN GREENE PORSCHE 3.8 RSR ATL 6 6 4
SPO 231188 WAYNE CABANISS CHEVY CORVETTE SCR 5 5 DF 5
SPO 253334 WILLIAM FONDRIEST BMW M3 FLA 5 5 5
SPO 280132 JOHN BOSONETTO PONTIAC SUNFIRE ATL 3 3 7
SPO 114854 JIM COMAN ROTARY MG ALA 2 2 10 8
SPO 286627 ERIC HUFFMAN PORSCHE 911 ATL 1 1 DS 11 9
SPO 278389 EDWIN (BUD) ENGEL PONTIAC SUNFIRE BUC 1 1 9
SPO 153584 WALTER FIELDS III BMW 325 NCR DS
SPO 251158 EUGENE TATARYN PONTIAC FIREBIR CCR DS DF DF
SPO 130686 HARRY LANOUE 1995 MUSTANG BUC DF
SPO 198816 SYLVAIN TREMBLAY PORSCHE 911 FLA DS
SPO 085373 CLAUDIO BURTIN ESPERANTE ATL 14
SPO 191970 JIM HILDOCK AMC SPIRIT CFR DS
SPO 277906 RUSTY WHITE MAZDA RX7 CHA DS DS
SPO 283412 DEWAIN THOMAS MAZDA RX7 CFR 12
SPO 064020 AL WICHT CHEVY CORVETTE FLA DF
These are REAL numbers about BMWs and Corvettes from head to head competition in 2001.
Last event East Tennessee Regional:
Ranked by time:
Class Number Name Car Time #10 Index
fp 3 Mike Akard 87 325is 52.255 9 45.357
as 95 Mack Fraser 2001 Honda S2000 53.073 9 43.520
as 22 John Bishop 84 911 53.356 6 43.752
sm 69 Tony Bolton 1996 Acura Integra 53.373 9 44.620
pro 33 Mark Pilson - FSP 1979 VW Scirocco 53.458 6 43.622
csp 211 Brent Eddy 1999 Mazda Miata 53.849 9 45.233
esp 99 David Morrison 1997 Mustang Cobra 53.911 9 44.477
as 195 Keith Davenport 2001 S2000 53.934 4 44.226
bsp 32 Mark Noakes 1986 Corvette 53.943 9 45.204
pro 13 Lyonel Kent - GS 2000 Integra Type R 54.445 9 43.229
ep 59 Mike Washington 88 M3 54.568 9 47.310
bs 57 Allen Sanders 99 Miata 54.686 9 44.405
dp 29 Gary Lownsdale 1962 Sprite 54.991 9 46.797
csp 212 James Hill 1999 Mazda Miata 55.140 6 46.318
ss 123 Wayne Kickels 96 Corvette 55.158 9 45.726
csp 84 David Disney 1984 Mazda Rx-7 55.365 4 46.507
ss 94 Chad Falk 94 Vette 55.611 6 46.102
ss 0 Michael Grande 99 996 55.652 4 46.136
ss 13 Michael Lesmerises Mazda Rx-7 55.922 3 46.359
csp 48 David Dillow 1984 Mazda Rx-7 55.989 3 47.031
csp 11 Kurt Torres 1990 Civic 56.168 2 47.181
sts 29 Adam Ezell Honda Prelude 56.218 9 43.962
sts 10 Doug Allen 1999 Honda Civic SI 56.773 6 44.396
gsl 13 Danielle Kent 2000 Integra 57.094 9 45.333
str 54 Jared Suter 1997 Honda Civic DX 57.124 9 46.556
sts 16 Steven Hobbs 1994 Honda Accord 57.818 4 45.214
fs 13 Mack S. Elliot II 1998 Mustang GT 57.982 9 46.907
dp 32 Charlie Lownsdale 62 Sprite 58.057 6 49.407
dsp 10 Daniel Niel 2000 Celica GTS 58.081 9 47.743
csp 21 Buddy Ahlers 1991 Miata 58.118 1 48.819
fs 4 Steve Waters 1986 Chevy Camaro 58.162 6 47.053
as 2 Robert Berry 84 911 58.229 3 47.748
ssl 47 Allison Von Gruenigen 2001 Corvette 58.245 9 48.285
gs 3 Bill Lenihan 98 C280 58.595 9 46.524
sts 7 Mark Mangusson 87 325is 58.673 3 45.882
esp 10 John McGrath 1988 Chrysler Conquest 58.699 6 48.427
dp 63 Rich Miller 58 Sprite 58.939 4 50.157
csp 1 Phillip Harris 1991 Miata 58.942 1 49.511
csp 111 David Smith 1984 Rx-7 58.970 1 49.535
bsp 111 Russell Bukner 1986 Corvette 59.032 6 49.469
dp 15 Jim Stockburger 1988 323 GTX 59.216 3 50.393
csp 12 Mark McCrary 1992 Mazda Miata 59.229 1 49.752
as 951 C Noble 87 944 59.230 2 48.569
sts 9 Jackie Alexander 2001 Celica 59.340 2 46.404
csp 68 David Niemann 1990 CRX SI 59.388 1 49.886
es 71 Hart Kaudewitz 1998 Plymouth Neon 59.451 9 46.610
as 3 Jim Klonarn 2000 S2000 59.464 1 48.760
esp 17 Chad Collier Merkur XR4TI 59.711 4 49.262
bsp 11 Jeff McBehee 1985 Corvette 59.943 4 50.232
sts 20 Andy Howard 92 Prelude 59.966 1 46.893
cp 7 Charlie Valentine 1983 Capri 59.975 9 51.099
pro 98 Ronald Hurst - CP 67 Mustang 59.992 4 51.113
sts 47 Dewey L. Foulk, Jr. 1988 Ford Escort GT 60.252 1 47.117
sts 54 Chuck Moore BMW 325is 60.615 1 47.401
fs 44 Wesley Johnson 96 Z28 60.625 4 49.046
bs 79 Dick Hancock 96 Miata 60.969 6 49.507
fp 8 Scott Gibson 72 914 60.978 6 52.929
sts 30 Stuart Gibson 2000 Golf 61.298 1 47.935
hs 12 George Murphy 89 300E 61.350 9 47.792
gs 8 Mark Nienaber 2002 Impreza 61.612 6 48.920
bs 70 Mark Royer 97 BMW Z3 61.613 4 50.030
es 321 Brian White 93 Celica GT 62.067 6 48.661
ds 2 Dave Yoder 87 X19 62.564 9 49.801
sts 81 Nathan Peters 2000 Prelude 62.596 1 48.950
hs 37 Carlton McGee 97 Civic EX 62.668 6 48.818
fsp 9 Mike McMillan 1966 Weseley Hornet 62.879 9 51.309
sts 77 John Arnold 88 M3 62.969 1 49.242
gsl 10 Cathy McGrath 87 Conquest 62.984 6 50.009
dpl 2 Paulette Lownsdale 62 Sprite 63.071 9 53.673
es 43 Zachary Wyatt 95 MX-6 63.431 4 49.730
as 13 Cliff Gibbs 2001 S2000 63.841 1 52.350
es 7 Kristen Kaudewitz Integra 64.019 3 50.191
sm 62 BJ Gardner 2001 Civic 64.587 6 53.995
bs 37 Travis Housewright 97 Miata 64.770 3 52.593
sts 311 Thomas Hitch 99 Civic 64.774 1 50.653
fsp 44 Richard Cannida 1993 Mirage 65.672 6 53.588
ssl 123 Joyce Kickels 96 Corvette 65.882 6 54.616
es 17 Matt Zardni 86 CRX SI 67.982 2 53.298
ap 31 Lee Hamner 1965 AC Cobra dnf 0 dnf
Mid-Season East Tennessee Regional:
Ranked by time:
Class No. Car Name Time #5 Index
FP 03 325is Mike Akard 33.168 28.790
STM 69 Integra Tony Bolton 34.662 28.977
CSP 84 Rx-7 David Disney 35.192 29.561
BSP 32 Corvette Mark Noakes 35.344 29.618
AS 9 911 Deems Riddle 35.427 29.050
PRO 99 CRX Robert Carpenter - CSP 35.504 29.823
CSP 65 Miata Randy Finley 35.703 29.991
ESP 99 Mustang Cobra David Morrison 35.925 29.638
SS 0 911 Michael Grande 36.118 29.942
AS 11 911 SC Tommy Wilson 36.266 29.738
EP 59 BMW M3 Mike Washington 36.363 31.527
PRO 99 Mustang Ron Hurst - CP 36.613 31.194
CSP 12 Miata Mark McCrary 36.626 30.766
CSP 48 Rx-7 David Dillow 36.693 30.822
GS 13 325is John Capito 36.819 29.234
BS 911 Miata Jason Ford 37.140 30.158
SS 13 Mazda Rx-7 Michael Lesmeris 37.167 30.811
STS 71 Neon Hart Kaudewitz 37.214 29.101
DP 32 Sprite Charlie Lownsdale 37.314 31.754
AS 13 S2000 Cliff Gibbs 37.434 30.696
STS 16 Accord Steven Hobbs 37.657 29.448
CSP 68 CRX David Niemann 37.729 31.692
FS 4 Camaro Steve Waters 37.770 30.556
DSP 54 325is Chuck Moore 37.819 31.087
STS 10 Civic Doug Allen 37.908 29.644
AS 38 Audi S4 Scott Branson 37.933 31.105
STR 54 Civic Jared Suter 37.979 30.953
AS 96 Corvette Wayne Kickels 37.992 31.153
ES 2 NX 2000 Dave Yoder 38.053 29.834
DP 29 Sprite Gary Lownsdale 38.171 32.484
STS 17 Neon Kristen Kaudewitz 38.294 29.946
AS 14 3000 GT Sean Johnson 38.395 31.484
EP 29 BMW M3 Kevin Nichols 38.418 33.308
BS 31 Miata Lee Hamner 38.535 31.290
STS 29 Prelude Adam Ezell 38.738 30.293
CSP 71 VW Golf Scott Lusted 38.827 32.615
AS 78 911 Jim Marsh 38.855 31.861
ESP 89 Mustang Tom Frye 38.918 32.107
STS 47 Escort GT Dewey Foulk 39.014 30.509
BS 38 Miata Jeff Kirkland 39.167 31.804
STS 13 Tiburon John Baird 39.348 30.770
AS 53 3000 GT John McGrath 39.518 32.405
GS 62 Impreza Matthew Shreve 39.757 31.567
GS 82 Audi A4 Jesse Todd 40.017 31.773
CSP 25 CRX Matthew Claytor 40.138 33.716
ASL 9 911 Vicki Riddle 40.294 33.041
ESP 91 Mustang Brian Tollefsen 40.484 33.399
FS 13 Mustang Mack Elliot 40.593 32.840
ES 86 Accord Jeff Stansberry 41.085 32.211
BSP 72 Corvette Hobie Rice 41.437 34.724
STS 66 Civic Matt McConlley 41.706 32.614
DPL 2 Sprite Paulette Lownsdale 41.737 35.518
ASL 53 3000 GT Helen McGrath 41.767 34.249
ASL 96 Corvette Joyce Kickels 42.401 34.769
ESP 9 Weseley Mike McMillan 42.773 35.288
GS 57 Saab 93 Kathryn McKissick 42.941 34.095
STS 21 Sentra Ashley McKinney 45.987 35.962
Opening Event East Tennessee Regional:
Ranked by time:
Class No. Car Name Time #1 Index
FP 3 325is Mike Akard 35.383 30.606
PRO 91 911 Lee Kent - ASP 35.610 30.090
PRO 96 MR2 MKI John Brown - DP 35.838 30.498
PRO 33 Scirocco Mark Pilson - FSP 36.522 29.802
PRO 15 Civic Lyonel Kent - CSP 37.412 31.426
PRO 112 Miata Robert Carpenter - CSP 37.428 31.440
CSPL 15 Civic Danielle Lanca 37.490 31.642
BSP 4 Corvette Russell Buckner 37.549 31.804
CSP 65 Miata Randy Finley 37.610 31.743
FM 23 Bobsy Larry Hunt 37.808 34.178
BS 79 Miata Dick Hancock 38.056 30.940
STM 69 Integra Tony Bolton 38.168 31.870
CSP 84 Rx-7 David Disney 38.226 32.263
STM 77 Civic Mark Magnusson 38.635 32.260
ESP 99 Mustang Cobra David Morrison 38.899 31.975
STS 71 Neon Hart Kaudewitz 39.073 30.555
CSP 12 Miata Mark McCrary 39.208 33.092
CSP 71 Miata Jason Anderson 39.391 33.246
DP 3 Sprite Gary Lownsdale 39.395 33.604
STS 16 Accord Steven Hobbs 39.595 30.963
FP 7 Volvo M. Ward 39.650 34.297
AP 11 Rx-7 Rob Seneker 39.656 34.659
AS 95 S2000 Mack Frasier 39.844 32.553
CP 15 Mustang Gary Henkel 39.858 34.118
AS 13 S2000 Cliff Gibbs 39.909 32.606
BP 144 Daytona Jamie Kerr 40.132 34.995
BSP 32 Corvette Mark Noakes 40.194 34.044
STS 10 Civic Doug Allen 40.249 31.475
GS 13 BMW 325 John Capio 40.444 31.910
BS 23 VW GTI Randy Griffin 40.580 32.992
FSP 12 Sentra Steven Peters 40.710 33.179
ASP 77 Rx-7 David Dillow 40.778 34.743
DP 63 Sprite Rich Miller 40.825 34.824
BS 111 Miata Jim Stockburger 40.848 33.209
ES 5 Talon Josh Carmley 40.962 32.196
PRO 6 Mustang Ron Hurst - CP 40.969 34.906
STS 86 Escort GT Dewey Foulk 40.970 32.039
CSP 29 Miata Dan Hill 41.171 34.748
DP 37 Sprite Charlie Lownsdale 41.352 35.273
CSP 55 Civic Brian Morris 41.394 34.937
CSP 155 Civic David Niemann 41.399 34.941
STM 08 Civic Kevin Cody 41.439 34.602
STS 54 Civic Jared Suter 41.583 32.518
GS 15 VW GTI William Miller 42.116 33.230
ESP 10 Conquest John McGrath 42.142 34.641
STS 17 Neon Kristen Kaudewitz 42.229 33.023
BS 31 Miata Lee Hamner 42.389 34.462
CS 85 MR2 Tyler Greene 42.414 34.101
CP 7 Capri Charlie Valentine 42.857 36.686
ES 66 Civic Matt McCanlley 42.940 33.751
FS 13 Mustang Mack Elliot 43.182 34.848
ESP 17 XR4TI Chad Collier 43.301 35.593
CSP 27 CRX Michael Suttles 43.839 37.000
BP 44 Daytona Benjamin Jordan 43.894 38.276
DS 25 CRX Matt Clayton 44.410 35.350
FS 4 Camaro Steve Waters 44.845 36.190
GS 20 VW Corrado Brian McCrary 45.516 35.912
SS 14 Corvette David Hill 45.880 38.080
GS 11 Conquest Jeremy Mays 45.902 36.217
DP 9 Sprite Mike McMillan 46.379 39.561
DPL 7 Sprite Paulette Lownsdale 48.665 39.857
BS 11 Miata Hazel Tucker 63.182 51.367
ROAD RACING RESULTS from 2001 listed in final points postion order for South Atlantic Road Racing Championships (SARRC) series:
Final 2001 SARRC Points Out Div drivers deleted VIR HO Seb Seb AT VIR MO MO RO RO VIR VIR CMS CMS LO MO AT DA DA AT AT SI
#- Trophy positions best total 10 11 11 2 3 3 3 3 4 4 5 5 5 5 6 7 7 8 8 9 9 9
CLASS DRIVER CAR REG 6/SIC pts 21 19 26 25 4 18 24 25 28 29 12 13 26 27 23 15 28 4 5 1 2 30
SPO 221562 HENRY GILBERT PORSCHE 930 # FLA 90 94 1 1 6 1 1 4 1 1
SPO 274113 HARTMUT VONSEELEN PORSCHE 911 RSR # CCR 84 90 1 1 1 4 1 2 2 2
SPO 272456 MIKE AKARD BMW 325 IS # ETR 43 43 3 3 2 8 4 4
SPO 235033 JIM KELLOGG TAURUS # ATL 39 39 3 2 5 6 DS 9 5 6
SPO 258827 GRANT WELLS BMW 325I # ATL 30 30 1 4 1 DF
SPO 280788 DAN SHAVER PONTIAC SUNFIRE # CCR 28 28 2 DF 1 3
SPO 239261 CHARLES W VAUGHN FORD TAURUS NCR 28 28 4 2 DF 7 DS 5
SPO 204078 ROBERT JONES LOVILL III PORSCHE 914-6 NCR 27 27 5 DS 2 3 4
SPO 276013 CHUCK PIAZZA OLDS CUTLASS CCR 27 27 2 DF 4 1
SPO 247265 TOM VLASAK PORSCHE 911 DIX 21 21 5 2 10 6 12 7
SPO 149949 CHARLES WICHT CHEVY CAMARO FLA 21 21 5 DF 3 2 DS DS
SPO 255390 JACK JONES CORVETTE ETR 21 21 1 2
SPO 244894 BOB MACK PORSCHE RSR FLA 19 19 3 1
SPO 274636 ORLANDO NUGUEIRA SUPRA FLA 19 19 1 DF 6 7
SPO 291289 ARTIE MALESCI FORD MUSTANG FLA 18 18 3 4 5
SPO 280774 MARK BUTTERY MAZDA RX7 FLA 17 17 3 6 4
SPO 164338 DARIO ORLANDO FORD MUSTANG FLA 16 16 2 DF 3
SPO 141174 BILL BEAN PORSCHE 930 TUR CFR 16 16 2 3
SPO 239564 CHARLES LEE CHEVY CORVETTE FLA 16 16 6 4 DQ 6 8 DF
SPO 219833 BOB HUMPHREYS GRAND PRIX CCR 14 14 DF 2 5 DF
SPO 240196 MARGIE LAPAOJA CHEVY CORVETTE CFR 13 13 3 4
SPO 289209 DAVID G MUNN TVR 2000 NCR 12 12 DS DS 1
SPO 268655 SCOOTER GABEL FORD MUSTANG CFR 12 12 1
SPO 258713 DALE CALDWELL DATSUN 510 ATL 11 11 6 3
SPO 206999 DAVID OGBURN CHEVY MONTECARL CFR 11 11 4 5
SPO 259037 MIKE MITCHELL PORSCHE 911 CFR 10 10 3 11 7
SPO 280290 JEFF WADE PORSCHE 944T9 ATL 9 9 5 13 6
SPO 236293 DON FLANAGAN PORSCHE 933 CFR 9 9 2
SPO 223910 HENRY VANVURST DODGE VIPER CFR 9 9 2
SPO 206955 JOHN BOURASSA PORSCHE FLA 9 9 2
SPO 272760 JOHANNES STEINER BMW M-3 CFR 9 9 2
SPO 294377 KURT ECKART CHEVY CAMARO CFR 8 8 7 5
SPO 279177 ROBERT KOLLAR BMW M3 ATL 7 7 3 DF
SPO 247103 TODD COURY LEE CHEVY CORVETTE FLA 7 7 3
SPO 250656 BILL RICHTER FORD MUSTANG FLA 7 7 DS 5 8
SPO 251468 BUDDY HENDRICKS PORSCHE 933 CFR 6 6 4
SPO 287450 PHIL SIMMS FORD MUSTANG CFR 6 6 4
SPO 275313 WARREN GREENE PORSCHE 3.8 RSR ATL 6 6 4
SPO 231188 WAYNE CABANISS CHEVY CORVETTE SCR 5 5 DF 5
SPO 253334 WILLIAM FONDRIEST BMW M3 FLA 5 5 5
SPO 280132 JOHN BOSONETTO PONTIAC SUNFIRE ATL 3 3 7
SPO 114854 JIM COMAN ROTARY MG ALA 2 2 10 8
SPO 286627 ERIC HUFFMAN PORSCHE 911 ATL 1 1 DS 11 9
SPO 278389 EDWIN (BUD) ENGEL PONTIAC SUNFIRE BUC 1 1 9
SPO 153584 WALTER FIELDS III BMW 325 NCR DS
SPO 251158 EUGENE TATARYN PONTIAC FIREBIR CCR DS DF DF
SPO 130686 HARRY LANOUE 1995 MUSTANG BUC DF
SPO 198816 SYLVAIN TREMBLAY PORSCHE 911 FLA DS
SPO 085373 CLAUDIO BURTIN ESPERANTE ATL 14
SPO 191970 JIM HILDOCK AMC SPIRIT CFR DS
SPO 277906 RUSTY WHITE MAZDA RX7 CHA DS DS
SPO 283412 DEWAIN THOMAS MAZDA RX7 CFR 12
SPO 064020 AL WICHT CHEVY CORVETTE FLA DF
These are REAL numbers about BMWs and Corvettes from head to head competition in 2001.
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Re: Rev Limiter Question... (RedLandRocket)
Good point.
A bit too aggressive for day one.
Don't get me wrong, I love to pick on other cars too.
Both with my BMW and my Z06.
My whole point is they BOTH have strong points and can beat one another in different types of competition.
Just got rubbed the wrong way since I have both types of cars and feel like you sold the BMW short with your post.
I intend to autocross my Z06 in SS, and it will be very strong in SS, but it won't whip my FP BMW anytime soon for FTD of an event. It surely will be a lot more fun to drive to and from the event in the Vette, and it makes for a tremendously better daily driver, redlight to redlight monster, and top speed dominator.
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A bit too aggressive for day one.
Don't get me wrong, I love to pick on other cars too.
Both with my BMW and my Z06.
My whole point is they BOTH have strong points and can beat one another in different types of competition.
Just got rubbed the wrong way since I have both types of cars and feel like you sold the BMW short with your post.
I intend to autocross my Z06 in SS, and it will be very strong in SS, but it won't whip my FP BMW anytime soon for FTD of an event. It surely will be a lot more fun to drive to and from the event in the Vette, and it makes for a tremendously better daily driver, redlight to redlight monster, and top speed dominator.
:cheers:
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Re: Rev Limiter Question... (Norris)
My sincere apologies to all. I did not intend to start a "war of words" concerning fast cars. I just wanted to get a little reasurance that my engine probally was not damaged from all you guys that know more about engines than I. I do know that I love my Vette and I will never take it back to that place for a dyno. It still runs strong and the engine does not make any weird sounds, so I think all is OK. Again, thanks for all the input. Carl
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Re: Rev Limiter Question... (Ryan2002C5)
No m3 for me, but my little old '87 325is is pretty strong when it comes to autocrossing (see other posts). My Z06 is an ULTRA strong SS car, but it can't claim to eat properly set-up m3s at an autocross.
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Re: Rev Limiter Question... (makard)
Oh, I'm terribly sorry, I thought you were implying that YOUR Vette "eats m3s" at autocrosses as written in the context of your post. I understand that the '02 Z06 Corvette can out perform the stock 6 cylinder M3 by almost .1 second 0-60 (while weighing some 300 lbs less and having a mere 75 more horsepower), but that has NOTHING to do with YOUR Vette and autocrossing. Sure, the Z06 wins 1/4 mile racing as well as skidpad, but again that is likely due to the fact that it comes standard with more rubber touching the pavement and loads more torque and horsepower (much like the 03 Viper will again kick butt by beating the Z06 with brute force). But, as you should know, autocrossing is NOT an area where brute force will win. AND, you DO race against M3s at autocrosses because everyone races for FTD in every event! By the way, if you are racing your car in SS as you claim, and the mods that you have listed are also true, you are cheating in each autocross you run the car in a stock class! Might want to read the rule book and run against the cars that you are supposed to be classed with instead of loading the deck in your favor!! :hat
FYI: Your 02 Z06 does 0-60 in 4.0 seconds (Car & Driver), while the 01 M3 managed to do it in only 4.7 seconds. An M Roadster is a tick faster at 4.5 seconds, tying an 01 C5 vert.
,7 seconds is significant, in my book. Therefore, you should have much fun, blowing away any M3s that come your way.
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Re: Rev Limiter Question... (Dave68)
I think you totally missed the point.
His Vette is NOT a stock car and comparing it to a stock m3 is not a fair comparison. A prepared m3 will whip his Vette in an autocross and that was my point. As for beating a 3.2L straight six in a car that weighs 3400 lbs in my 5.7L v8 car that only weighs 3120 by a whopping .7 seconds in a magazine 0-60 comparison (especially in the same article that named the m3 the overall winner of the direct comparison), it just does not do much for me to get my jollies since the m3 is getting so much more performance out of a smaller normally aspirated engine. My first post conceded that the Vette could win a drag race. As posted earlier, it is the same thing as Vette vs Viper. Of course the Viper SHOULD win a straight line race. It has a bigger, stronger powerplant (even bigger/stonger for '03 since the dodge boys don't like the Z06 being so close to their torque monster death trap). That does NOT mean the Viper can beat the Vette in a competitive driving situation like the autocross we have been discussing. In fact, a stock Z06 would absolutely crush a stock Viper in most any autocross. Likely the same with a stock Z06 vs a Street-Prepared Viper. That just proves that there is a LOT more to any autocross that brute force. That is why older, big block Vettes that shake the ground at idle and can rip your head off in straight line acceleration normally don't do very well at an autocross.
A prepared M3 can certainly run awfully competitive in any racing environment. BMW Motorsport division got 1300hp out of a 1.5L turbo 4 cylinder M engine in the 1980s and installed in the proper chassis, that would be really tough for anything on gasoline without Nitrous Oxide to beat because of the power to weight advantages it would have.
I purchased my Z06 because it would outrun a stock new M3, had 0% financing vs 5.9%, insurance quote was nearly $200.00 every 6 months cheaper, and I would have had to wait a few weeks to get the M3. The fully useable back seat in the BMW combined with all kinds of ROOM was a big factor in the consideration that it received from me. But, BRUTE FORCE, V8 RUMBLE, and BOWTIE POWER won me over when we took the Vette for the test drive. I'm just not ready to hear that any SS car can outrun my FP 325is BMW, including my new Z06 because it just won't happen anytime soon!
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His Vette is NOT a stock car and comparing it to a stock m3 is not a fair comparison. A prepared m3 will whip his Vette in an autocross and that was my point. As for beating a 3.2L straight six in a car that weighs 3400 lbs in my 5.7L v8 car that only weighs 3120 by a whopping .7 seconds in a magazine 0-60 comparison (especially in the same article that named the m3 the overall winner of the direct comparison), it just does not do much for me to get my jollies since the m3 is getting so much more performance out of a smaller normally aspirated engine. My first post conceded that the Vette could win a drag race. As posted earlier, it is the same thing as Vette vs Viper. Of course the Viper SHOULD win a straight line race. It has a bigger, stronger powerplant (even bigger/stonger for '03 since the dodge boys don't like the Z06 being so close to their torque monster death trap). That does NOT mean the Viper can beat the Vette in a competitive driving situation like the autocross we have been discussing. In fact, a stock Z06 would absolutely crush a stock Viper in most any autocross. Likely the same with a stock Z06 vs a Street-Prepared Viper. That just proves that there is a LOT more to any autocross that brute force. That is why older, big block Vettes that shake the ground at idle and can rip your head off in straight line acceleration normally don't do very well at an autocross.
A prepared M3 can certainly run awfully competitive in any racing environment. BMW Motorsport division got 1300hp out of a 1.5L turbo 4 cylinder M engine in the 1980s and installed in the proper chassis, that would be really tough for anything on gasoline without Nitrous Oxide to beat because of the power to weight advantages it would have.
I purchased my Z06 because it would outrun a stock new M3, had 0% financing vs 5.9%, insurance quote was nearly $200.00 every 6 months cheaper, and I would have had to wait a few weeks to get the M3. The fully useable back seat in the BMW combined with all kinds of ROOM was a big factor in the consideration that it received from me. But, BRUTE FORCE, V8 RUMBLE, and BOWTIE POWER won me over when we took the Vette for the test drive. I'm just not ready to hear that any SS car can outrun my FP 325is BMW, including my new Z06 because it just won't happen anytime soon!
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