Gas line leaking between tanks ??????
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From: Chapin SC
Gas line leaking between tanks ??????
MY 2004 vette with 11k miles is in the shop now running up a 10.4 hour labor charge due to the transfer line between the two gas tanks leaking. Got to drop the tanks, rear end, transmission, and also slightly lower and angle the motor to repair it. Has anyone ever heard of this??? My mechanic has tried to get some help from GM but they said NO -out of warranty since it was made in Jan 04.
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My 04 had the same leak (gas was a steady stream) 900 miles from home. I heard that GM went to a metal cross over line on 04 cars. I had GMPP cover mine. Kansas City dealer said the tank nipple that the hose was connected to was out of round. I filed a report to NHTSA on this.
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From: hill billy hell
There have been posts on the problem you are describing about the 04
fuel system
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1746325
Here is a detailed description of your fuel system
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...el+Tank+System
fuel system
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1746325
Here is a detailed description of your fuel system
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...el+Tank+System
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St. Jude Donor '04
Most of the leaks I've heard of are the tank leaking where the crossover pipe hooks up, This is the first time I've heard of the crossover pipe leaking.
By the way, the pipe comes out before the tanks and if the crossover pipe is the only thing that is leaking then there is no reason to pull either of the fuel tanks.
By the way, the pipe comes out before the tanks and if the crossover pipe is the only thing that is leaking then there is no reason to pull either of the fuel tanks.
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you don't have to pull the tanks but u do need to drop the trans. to remove the cross pipe i have replaced at least 3 fue pumps on 04 and that is the only way to disconnect the pipe for reapairs unless someone has very small arms and can just lower the trans. down to get it
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This is where mine was leaking and it turned out to be the tank. I pulled the tank and everything looked good but I decided to replace the tank before I would replace crossover pipe and the new tank fixed the leak.
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FYI
I have done numerous repairs on these, the automatic trans are more difficult to gain access. The manual trans make the crossover replacement a snap. The book time is right though. For a side job I would charge $300 plus the parts.
I remove the mufflers, rear sway bar, vent solenoid and thats it to replace the crossover
I have done numerous repairs on these, the automatic trans are more difficult to gain access. The manual trans make the crossover replacement a snap. The book time is right though. For a side job I would charge $300 plus the parts.
I remove the mufflers, rear sway bar, vent solenoid and thats it to replace the crossover
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From: Chapin SC
Thanks to everyone for your help. I plan to file a report to NHTSA and have taken numerous pics. GM has refused to cover under warranty and refused to admit that there is a problem with their mickey mouse connection design between the tanks and the transfer line connector.
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my 04 leaked too, covered under warrantee at the time. I was told it is the o-rings on the connector to the tanks, but the preferred way to fix was to replace everything just in case...because considering the labor, they wouldn't want to do it a 2nd time.
I also heard that putting additives in the tank and NOT IMMEDIATELY WASHING IT DOWN WITH A TANK OF GAS can mess up those o-rings and cause a leak.
So beware when adding things to your tanks !
I also heard that putting additives in the tank and NOT IMMEDIATELY WASHING IT DOWN WITH A TANK OF GAS can mess up those o-rings and cause a leak.
So beware when adding things to your tanks !
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The 04's had some bad fuel tanks in the supply line. The Cadellac XLR's and 04 Vettes were affected. Once your driver's side fuel tank is replaced you won't have a problem. The tech that worked on mine reported that he could feel the difference when the crosstank feed tube snapped into place on the new tank. They thought it was the o-rings at first too, until they had to do it again. I don't believe that it's the additives affecting the o-rings. I do believe that there was a faulty tank design.
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the more i think about it, it is quite unfair that the dealer won't cover it. Try another dealership, talk to the top guy, be sweet as sugar. I can't imagine they would turn away a car with 11k !
Be creative. Their business is based on relationships. Try. Maybe if he sees that your regular dealership did not satisfy you, perhaps he can grab onto you as a new customer and maybe your next purchase will be with his.
Good luck.
Be creative. Their business is based on relationships. Try. Maybe if he sees that your regular dealership did not satisfy you, perhaps he can grab onto you as a new customer and maybe your next purchase will be with his.
Good luck.
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The 04's had some bad fuel tanks in the supply line. The Cadellac XLR's and 04 Vettes were affected. Once your driver's side fuel tank is replaced you won't have a problem. The tech that worked on mine reported that he could feel the difference when the crosstank feed tube snapped into place on the new tank. They thought it was the o-rings at first too, until they had to do it again. I don't believe that it's the additives affecting the o-rings. I do believe that there was a faulty tank design.
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You can report this to the NHTSA if you want but they won't be able to do anything, GM will show them that they built approx 35,000 of these every year since 1997 and then be able to say they've only seen XX number of failures (probably less than .1%), granted all of the leaks I've heard of were early 2004 models and they were all left side tanks.
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You can report this to the NHTSA if you want but they won't be able to do anything, GM will show them that they built approx 35,000 of these every year since 1997 and then be able to say they've only seen XX number of failures (probably less than .1%), granted all of the leaks I've heard of were early 2004 models and they were all left side tanks.
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Same thing on my 04 with 400 miles, left side tank and crossover pipe replaced. Had to have it flat bedded back to dealer, it was leaking bad.
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I just picked up my car after having all crossover gas lines and o rings replaced on both tanks. The o rings on the lines tying into the left tank were bad. Major job, but I was now relieved. I then parked it in the garage and was getting ready to reset all the electronics and re-detail it when I noticed that gas is leaking in the same place AGAIN!!!!!! It sounds like I should have had them replace the left tank also. HELP!!!
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BTW - the actual fuel system change happened mid year of the 03 model, I think around November/December 2002 but for some reason all of the failures I've heard about were 2004 cars, GM must have made a supplier change or the supplier made a manufacturing change???
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I just picked up my car after having all crossover gas lines and o rings replaced on both tanks. The o rings on the lines tying into the left tank were bad. Major job, but I was now relieved. I then parked it in the garage and was getting ready to reset all the electronics and re-detail it when I noticed that gas is leaking in the same place AGAIN!!!!!! It sounds like I should have had them replace the left tank also. HELP!!!