Whiplash....................cams.
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Racer
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Whiplash....................cams.
Anyone on the forum bought and installed the Whiplash cam kit from Englandgreen? and if so what are your thoughts on this cam kit. have been looking for such a kit and need some info please !
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Racer
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St. Jude Donor '08
Update
When I last e-mailed Stephen on Thursday,I only half jokingly said that it would be great if my vert could be in one of his killer vids. I was suprised when e-mailed right back that he'd be glad to make my C5 the new EG Whiplash poster child. He liked the idea of catching third gear wheel spin with the use of a pursuit car. I told him to keep the car as long as he wants. Car was scheduled for dyno today, but I know that Stephen seems to be fairly backlogged and I wouldn't be surprised if it may be a day or two for results. Stephen is also doing double springs and swapping out my 4.10 pulley for 3.70. He says that the car sounds "wicked" I'm looking for 500 rwhp.
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Racer
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Well congrats on the possible video 
,will be waiting to see it. I know you are probably excited waiting to get it back, Do you know if they went with the 7.400 push rods or did they go with another ?
Wondering about that aspect as to the rocker postion on the valve.
,will be waiting to see it. I know you are probably excited waiting to get it back, Do you know if they went with the 7.400 push rods or did they go with another ?Wondering about that aspect as to the rocker postion on the valve.
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When I last e-mailed Stephen on Thursday,I only half jokingly said that it would be great if my vert could be in one of his killer vids. I was suprised when e-mailed right back that he'd be glad to make my C5 the new EG Whiplash poster child. He liked the idea of catching third gear wheel spin with the use of a pursuit car. I told him to keep the car as long as he wants. Car was scheduled for dyno today, but I know that Stephen seems to be fairly backlogged and I wouldn't be surprised if it may be a day or two for results. Stephen is also doing double springs and swapping out my 4.10 pulley for 3.70. He says that the car sounds "wicked" I'm looking for 500 rwhp.
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Melting Slicks
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Most cams with special names are all just custom grinds from Comp Cams. You need to do some cam research and find out exactly what your goals are and select the cams SPECS that suit you the best. Most of the time, it won't be some special name that someone made up, but rather your own custom grind from Comp Cams. There are a ton of gurus over at LS1tech that can help you select the perfect cam.
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Most cams with special names are all just custom grinds from Comp Cams. You need to do some cam research and find out exactly what your goals are and select the cams SPECS that suit you the best. Most of the time, it won't be some special name that someone made up, but rather your own custom grind from Comp Cams. There are a ton of gurus over at LS1tech that can help you select the perfect cam.
Lot of money being wasted out there.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14
Here is a teaser vid for all the haters, keyboard commandos and experts
Oh yes.... Carl Spackler's 1999 MN6 Vert made 507rwhp and 452rwtq
The baseline was 433rwhp.
Oh yes.... Carl Spackler's 1999 MN6 Vert made 507rwhp and 452rwtq
The baseline was 433rwhp.
Last edited by EG@EnglandGreen; Dec 8, 2007 at 06:22 PM.
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Well congrats on the possible video ,will be waiting to see it. I know you are probably excited waiting to get it back, Do you know if they went with the 7.400 push rods or did they go with another ?
Wondering about that aspect as to the rocker postion on the valve.
,will be waiting to see it. I know you are probably excited waiting to get it back, Do you know if they went with the 7.400 push rods or did they go with another ?Wondering about that aspect as to the rocker postion on the valve.
Last edited by EG@EnglandGreen; Dec 8, 2007 at 06:22 PM.
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Stock 1999 LS1 Vert, stock LS1 heads, LGM Pros headers, no cats, x-pipe, Corsa Pace catback, ATI Procharger P1SC supercharger (with ATI version 1 bracket and dual intercoolers - extremely inefficient), 3.85 inch blower pulley, 7 lb of boost. EnglandGreen Whiplash cam, Patriot Extreme springs with titanium retainers.
Picked up 74rwhp with just a cam and 1.5 lb of boost increase. Baseline was 433rwhp with a 4.10 pulley making 5.5 lb of boost
Picked up 74rwhp with just a cam and 1.5 lb of boost increase. Baseline was 433rwhp with a 4.10 pulley making 5.5 lb of boost
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '08
I agree, besides a lot of the cam specs I've seen specified and installed by people here are only addressing peak HP, when most of the time the power band is way too high to get at it. You'll have to spin those engines to the moon to even notice it and in fact you will lose bottom end HP and torque. I did lots and lots of research when I picked my cam and could have installed any cam I wanted for the money but I chose a mid range grind from a very successful tuner (Futral) and couldn't be happier with the choice. It's street friendly and the power comes on early and pulls right to red line. I like when someone picks a cam based on how it "lopes". Lot of money being wasted out there.
Lot of money being wasted out there.
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Just as you are happy with the results of your mid range cam, I and others are more than happy with the results of our larger cams. My G5x3 that I put in is more than stret friendly. Its my daily driver and couldnt be happier. YES it does lope and that is one of the criteria I wanted in my cam. I just added AFR 205's which have smaller runners to make up for low end torque. Its all in the combination, IMO. In addition, this car that Stephen worked on already has a Procharger on it so im sure that makes up for anything a big cam "lacks" in peoples eyes
Whiplash cam & ECS Paxton supercharger - 553rwhp
Whiplash cam & ATI Procharger supercharger - 507rwhp
Whiplash cam MN6 N/A - 410rwhp
Whiplash cam MN6 N/A - 414rwhp
Whiplash cam MN12 N/A - 417rwhp
Whiplash cam A4 stock stall N/A - 391rwhp
Whiplash cam A4 2800 stall N/A - 389rwhp
Monster cam A4 stock stall N/A - 385rwhp
Godzilla cam & ATI Procharger F1C supercharger - 805rwhp - http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1870910
Need I go on?
Last edited by EG@EnglandGreen; Dec 9, 2007 at 12:37 AM.
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Racer
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Stephen seemed like you had fallen off the planet, because I haven't seen any post from you, Evidently you must be pretty busy with all the installs. PM me with the whiplash kit price, wondering if it is the same as the quote before? or email me at just280@yahoo.com. also have a question as to a Vigilante 2800 or 3200 triple disc torque converter and trans kit to go along with it.
And one last thing Congrats on the Dyno and tune on Carls car know you and he were stoked on the numbers!
And one last thing Congrats on the Dyno and tune on Carls car know you and he were stoked on the numbers!
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Thanks Tom. How's that G5X4 I installed for you last year?
The experts will tell you that a big cam is undriveable... the experts will also tell you that a big cam and a supercharger/turbocharger are mutually exclusive... and yet...
Whiplash cam & ECS Paxton supercharger - 553rwhp
Whiplash cam & ATI Procharger supercharger - 507rwhp
Whiplash cam MN6 N/A - 410rwhp
Whiplash cam MN6 N/A - 414rwhp
Whiplash cam MN12 N/A - 417rwhp
Whiplash cam A4 stock stall N/A - 391rwhp
Whiplash cam A4 2800 stall N/A - 389rwhp
Monster cam A4 stock stall N/A - 385rwhp
Godzilla cam & ATI Procharger F1C supercharger - 805rwhp - http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1870910
Need I go on?
The experts will tell you that a big cam is undriveable... the experts will also tell you that a big cam and a supercharger/turbocharger are mutually exclusive... and yet...
Whiplash cam & ECS Paxton supercharger - 553rwhp
Whiplash cam & ATI Procharger supercharger - 507rwhp
Whiplash cam MN6 N/A - 410rwhp
Whiplash cam MN6 N/A - 414rwhp
Whiplash cam MN12 N/A - 417rwhp
Whiplash cam A4 stock stall N/A - 391rwhp
Whiplash cam A4 2800 stall N/A - 389rwhp
Monster cam A4 stock stall N/A - 385rwhp
Godzilla cam & ATI Procharger F1C supercharger - 805rwhp - http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1870910
Need I go on?
Looks like your cams are working great