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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 11:52 PM
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Hi,

I just fund out, that if you hold your traction contol button down for about 5 secs it goes into competitive mode. What does this mode actually do? lease tell me someone????????????? :crazy:
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 12:02 AM
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It turns OFF the Traction Control, and leaves the Active Handling "ON".
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 12:11 AM
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Hi,

Thanks for he reply, but I tink you miss read read my question. If you hold the traction control button down for about 5 sec, there is a totally diffrent mode that comes on other than tractoni control on, and traction control off. It comes up as Competition mode
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 12:27 AM
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Yes, the wording on the dic says Competitive Driving; but ZO6LS6
gave an accurate description as to what the comp mode equates to.
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 04:22 AM
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From what I've read the Competition mod allows the back wheels to spin freely but the active handling controls the front wheels.
And the rear wheels.
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 08:44 AM
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Fuelish,
Had the same question awhile back, this is how it came out on that thread. Comp mode only removes the TC when your moving (give me a chance to explain - no brake torque). If I brake torque (A4) in comp mode I still get the reduced power on the engine, just like TC was on. The AH side of the mode stays on to keep you between the ditches while in CM. What some C5ers have explained is that in CM your car won't stall if you decide to pull out in front of a 80,000lb truck, full power is maintained and you get out of the way. With TC/AH on you could stall a litte if your tires break loose and then the semi gets to play tag with you. So what it really breaks down to is three levels
ON - you get the computer controlling AH and TC
OFF - you have complete control of the car (could be dangerous)
CM - you get the best of both (full power to the rears with AH)

If you like to drive in CM but don't like the 5 sec rule there are some "toys" that allow your car to be placed in CM mode when you start her up.

later
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 08:55 AM
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Default Re: Traction Control Competition mode (THRAP 42)

Does this same scenario apply to the 97 C5? My traction control is either "off" or "on". Haven't seen the Competition Mode.

Thanks :confused:
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 08:55 AM
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Fuelish,
Had the same question awhile back, this is how it came out on that thread. Comp mode only removes the TC when your moving (give me a chance to explain - no brake torque). If I brake torque (A4) in comp mode I still get the reduced power on the engine, just like TC was on. The AH side of the mode stays on to keep you between the ditches while in CM
There is a difference between Generation 1 (1998-2000) Active Handling and Generation 2 (2001+) Active Handling systems. Generation 1 will not allow you to power brake, as described above...Generation 2 will allow you to power brake, without reducing engine power. Also, for Generation 1, although you can push the button while moving, the car must be stopped for Competitive Driving to engage. In other words, if you push the button while moving, you must be stopped within about 4 seconds in order for Competitive Driving to engage. With Generation 2, the car may be moving when Competitive Driving engages.
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 10:34 AM
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Does this same scenario apply to the 97 C5?
In order to have the Competitive Driving mode, you must have active handling. With the 1997 model year, AH was not available.


[Modified by Mike Mercury, 9:35 AM 11/20/2001]
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 12:51 PM
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Default Re: Traction Control Competition mode (Mike Mercury)

So on the 97--this means you have full control when the "Traction Control" is in the "off" position---meaning the driver has no restrictions.
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 01:08 PM
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Default Re: Traction Control Competition mode (C5XTASY)

I heard not to long ago that you can get your 1998-2000 AH upgarded to the new 2001. From what I heard they just upload a new program and your all set. The question I have is who just uploads this new program ??? Can anyone verify this and shed some more light on it.
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 02:58 PM
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Default Re: Traction Control Competition mode (thekev_2000)

You cannot upgrade a first generation Active Handling system to the second generation code. The hardware is different.

If you want to run in Competition Mode all the time (or turn everything off), our TracActive Controller is just the thing.

Full info at:
http://www.laptrax.com


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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 03:10 PM
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Default Re: Traction Control Competition mode (Mike Schriber)

Even in Comp mode you still can have traction control kick in. If the system detects wheel hop or some other abuses it will engage traction control, but it'll put a notice on the DIC when it happens.
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Old Nov 21, 2001 | 04:14 AM
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So on the 97--this means you have full control when the "Traction Control" is in the "off" position---meaning the driver has no restrictions.
Active Handling is not really considered a "restriction" by most. Traction control will slow the engine to the point where the car will bog if you try and accelerate so hard that you have rear wheel spin. You can't do burnouts, but you also can't nail the throttle in a turn and spin out into the guardrail.

Active handling will differentially brake any/all four wheels as needed to get you out of a skid. For example, if you get into a mild skid you can do nothing with the steering wheel and the car will get you out. Or, if you countersteer, the car will straighten with less steering input from the driver, and may keep you from overcontrolling into a second (opposite) skid. Go to this link http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/index_active.htm and watch the demo. I think you'll be convinced that it's not restrictive.

Hope this helps. :smash:
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Old Nov 21, 2001 | 02:48 PM
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Default Re: Traction Control Competition mode (NetJunkie)

Not so. In Competition Mode, Traction Control is out of the loop. Any computer control effects are from the Active Handling system (meaning the brakes may be applied, but no thottle retard).

Competition Mode is great in most cases.

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Old Nov 21, 2001 | 02:57 PM
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I use Comp. mode at the track(1/4 mile)
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Old Nov 21, 2001 | 08:37 PM
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Default Re: Traction Control Competition mode (FUELISH2001)

2001 and up C5's can also engage Comp. Mode while driving! The Active Handling 1st Generation has to stop and engage.
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Old Nov 22, 2001 | 01:17 AM
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Default Re: Traction Control Competition mode (Mike Schriber)

Not so. In Competition Mode, Traction Control is out of the loop. Any computer control effects are from the Active Handling system (meaning the brakes may be applied, but no thottle retard).

Competition Mode is great in most cases.

Mike :flag
That was what I thought also but if you really get bent out of shape you will get some throttle retard.
I have had some first hand experience. :hat :hat :hat
(At least in the 2000 version of AH)
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Old Nov 22, 2001 | 02:54 AM
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Fuelish: check your Owner's Manual; it's quite clear on much of this kind of thing. :yesnod: Enjoy!
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Old Dec 3, 2001 | 06:25 PM
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Default Re: Traction Control Competition mode (C5XTASY)

I took my friend's wife for a spin on my Y2k Hardtop and when I accelerated abruptly from a standstill, competition mode automatically kicked in. I did not have to press 5 seconds on my AH button. What gives?

:mad

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