well, after tstar told me about the price, i ordered them. 400 shipped, i wasnt expecting much. i got them, they looked nice... the port work looked(s) like ****. its terrible. i could have done a better job, and ive never welded in my life. anyways, onto the fitment.

i started the install, and it was rather trouble free. i found my plug wires were SHOT and a couple were hanging by their threads. i also found my oil filter was not even hand tight(just bought the car, and stupid me didnt change the oil) well, i changed the oil now needless to say.

here is what you guys are wanting to know.

the headers fit in without a single fitment issue

there is enough clearance on the ac line, but some of the padding is touching. i stuck a screwdriver to see if that was the line or padding, and it was all padding. at least 1/4 inch of clearance. the drivers side header had to be slipped in from the botton, the passenger side went in from the top. also, NO o2 extensions are needed for either front or rear with my magnaflow x pipe.

the x pipe sucks donkey *****. i scrapped mine. its way too freaking short, even if you are using cats. i had a magnaflow that came with the car, and i bolted it up. it has 2 o2 bungs as well, so i can use my rear o2's(or yank them out when my wideband gets here friday) and then just cut the wire off the other and leave it to plug the hole.

all in all, it took about 7 hours of time to get it done. that includes me losing a header bolt and breaking 2 spark plug wires and having to go to GM to get a new bolt and autozone to get some cheapy wires until my GM wires gets here friday from TSP.

would i buy these again? HELL YES. i would not get the x pipe though, just the headers.

just waiting on HP tuners so i can turn the codes off, although none have been thrown yet(they will). also have to find out how to yank the AIR system out. its a worthless POS. its still blowing air right now so im going to yank the fuse until HPtuners gets here.

its loud as crap with just open headers, very unpleasant. not even cool sounding like my old TA with open headers lol.

overall, install went without any major problems. also, you do NOT need to jack the car up a full 21 inches. i used 23 inch jack stands and only went two rungs up on the holder thingy. found some other stuff i was pissed about from the previous owner(s) too, but such is life. i did all this in my garage, without any help.

 

So it sounds like they have overcome the fitment issues, but still have quality control problems with the welds. I'm assuming you were talking about the welds for the AIR and 02 bungs. So the x pipe is useless, huh? How is the ground clearance compared to other header designs?

 

x pipe is useless because 1. it wont bolt up, and 2 its way to fricken short. there is no reason it should be as short as they make it. the air tube welds i dont care about, i wasnt planning on running the system anyways. the welds are the ports where it mates to the heads just really poor IMO. i have pictures, and ill post them in a minute. clearance looks great, they do not hang down one bit. ill go get a picture of that too.

edit: dont have photoshop on this computer, im going to have to wait till i get back to my house.

 

so sounds like a crappy product you got for cheap

everything we already knew

 

Well, it's sounds like they are making progress in the right direction, although, it has been at their customers expense. Glad you did not have to experience the pains other did. Let us know how they dyno.

 

should dyno 380+. oil was horribly overdue for a change with bad spark plug wires... should make for nice gains

i think they have the header design down right, they need to fine tune the placement of their bolt locations on the undercarraige though and make the system a complete system instead of that short x pipe.

 

The x pipe is not useless..... If you read any other thread where people have used these headers its is obvious that you need about 10" of extra exhaust pipe to complete the system. Do a search on these headers and theres a list made over and over again of the things you will need to complete the system. Good to hear you like them

 

"Getting a product that is half-assed made and then trying to sell it to someone that has to finish the product off to make it work."


Some peope have more time than money, me included. Nothing like getting to know your Vette.

 

its useless when i have a magnaflow sitting next to it with o2 bungs installed

 

I was speaking about the other guy, not you

 

Good point

Just curious what codes are typically thrown since there is no air system used with these? Can you just get them tuned out? Are you running cats? Sorry if i missed it

 

Thank you for the write up, I'm planning on picking a set of them up after the 1st of the year and this helps!

 

Do you need to be shown the door? If you do not think this place is so great then LEAVE

This is the place to communicate with people of similar passion for the corvette. If you are just here to tell people to shut up and f-off when they they have a different opinion than yours then i think you have bigger problems on your hands personally.

I guess these barely 20 year olds have envied corvette owners for a long time and they are finally in the price range that they can afford a 10 year old model. This forum is a mature forum for the most part. Please keep the teenager attitude on your ricer forums kid.

So here is a tip.. we have been doing this since you were in diapers. We may know and understand and have more wisdom about products than you. Deal with it

btw the average age of corvette owner here is not old

Are you sure you are not upset about the problems and just venting on here? Pitching a fit now you are going to take your pics and run... did you do that with your toys as a lil kid oh wait you still are haha

 

g1k05, I thought your post was interesting and informative.

 

me too, now lets see some pics. I may have to buy these.

 

nobody said it was not informative

I just said yeah we know they are a cheap crap version of headers.

All the rice guys know about the brand and say the same. We have multiple posts on the subject of ebay headers found here.

SO again they are crap to me. SO WHAT do what you want but don't tell me to f-off for saying i don't like them. That is just an immature response.

 

I love hearing both side of a story to help me make up my mind.

 

Just one big happy family!

 

Merry Christmas !

 

Back to the topic...

I ordered a set of the headers for my 97 along with 3" performance curve metallic cats. (using a WCC x-pipe) I was planning on installing myself but decided that it would be better to pay the extra $$ to have a pro do it and weld the joints instead of DIY, screwing it up and tossing $150+ on band clamps that can leak if not seated properly.

I know this doesn't sound like me at all, but I have Zero welding skills and DIY exhaust is something that i really don't want to attempt...plus I've tried to straighten out my borla quad tips for months and im' sure a pro can help that.