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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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You can also reach up with your foot and push the clutch pedal switch button when turning over/starting instead of the clutch pedal. It will turn over the drivetrain, but keep the load off the thrust bearing.
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I currently run Shell Rotella T synthetic 5W40 in my '01, '88.
also in the '03 Trailblazer and '02 Silverado...
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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I currently run Shell Rotella T synthetic 5W40 in my '01, '88.
also in the '03 Trailblazer and '02 Silverado...
so diesel oil has alot of zddp huh?

how much per quart compared to the new 15/50 heavy duty mobil one that just came out?

10 % 20% more ?????
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyguns
so diesel oil has alot of zddp huh?

how much per quart compared to the new 15/50 heavy duty mobil one that just came out?

10 % 20% more ?????
Read that link above....it tells about the detergents in desiel oils.


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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:16 pm
Post subject: GM EOS PN 1052367 now 88862586 Reply to this post Reply with quote
Old part #1052367 GM eos

Gm has reinstated this EOS, the new number is 88862586. Not yet available but will be soon, maybe by Christmas.

scrool down here to find some if the gm guys don't believe you http://www.acdelco.com/html/pi_vehcare_lub.htm

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Originally Posted by rustyguns
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:16 pm
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Old part #1052367 GM eos

Gm has reinstated this EOS, the new number is 88862586. Not yet available but will be soon, maybe by Christmas.

scrool down here to find some if the gm guys don't believe you http://www.acdelco.com/html/pi_vehcare_lub.htm

here ya gooooo
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Originally Posted by rustyguns
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:16 pm
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Old part #1052367 GM eos

Gm has reinstated this EOS, the new number is 88862586. Not yet available but will be soon, maybe by Christmas.

scrool down here to find some if the gm guys don't believe you http://www.acdelco.com/html/pi_vehcare_lub.htm

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In the product discription it says "not recommended as an oil additive"


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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
In the product discription it says "not recommended as an oil additive"


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I think that relates to the reason they are taking zinc out of motor oils. It is fabulous for preventing piston scuffing and general wear but it has long term effects on catalytic converters, thus the EPA is pressuring.

Take it from a guy who had a catastrophic (not catalytic) stroker startup, screw the cats!
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Well the GM stuff is 1/4 the price as the ZDDPPlus stuff.......


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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ArKay99
There is also this product: ZDDPlus
a six pack costs more than 6 singles
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
Well the GM stuff is 1/4 the price as the ZDDPPlus stuff.......


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GM HAS 1/5 AS MUCH ZDDP
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 02:15 AM
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GM HAS 1/5 AS MUCH ZDDP
Ohhh........


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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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I've got a case of the GM EOS if anyone needs a bottle or a smaller amount if needed.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ArKay99
I have learned that Red Line, Royal Purple, and Mobile One don't have any.
Red Line has lots... Patman on LS1tech (widely regarded as the oil expert) recommended it to me when I asked him about an oil with a high zinc and moly content.

http://www.redlineoil.com/msds/33.pdf

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Originally Posted by Mike94ZLT1
Red Line has lots. Patman on LS1tech (widely regarded as the oil expert) recommended it to me when I asked him about an oil with a high zinc and moly content.
is Patman that guy that does oil analysis professionally?

what did he say about royal purple?
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rustyguns
is Patman that guy that does oil analysis professionally?

what did he say about royal purple?
Yep, thats him. I think Patman hates Royal Purple more than anyone on the planet. He does independent testing, there was a thing a 2 or 3 years ago where he did all these tests and posted his results, basically showing royal purple to be garbage (MOTOR OIL, NOT TRANS OR REAR END FLUID) and RP got wind of his testing, tried to bribe him or make him take his results down and it turned into a giant fiasco. Between Patman's and TLewis's (RevXtreme) experiences, I wouldn't use royal purple in my lawn mower. Red Line is stupid expensive (It's 9 bucks a quart). I'm putting on a big oil cooler and 2 remote mount filters and increasing my capacity to 10 quarts over the winter, but I don't care. I have WAY to much time and money invested into this car to use anything but the best. And if that means an oil change costs me $100, then so be it. I've got well over $20K in mods to my car (none of that is labor as I do everything myself, so its in all parts) and I'm ridiculously **** about what goes into it.

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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike94ZLT1
Red Line has lots... Patman on LS1tech (widely regarded as the oil expert) recommended it to me when I asked him about an oil with a high zinc and moly content.

http://www.redlineoil.com/msds/33.pdf
What Red Line product is that? The breakdown I saw was for 5W-30. I know Patman is the expert. I guess you can't believe everything you read.
I'll try to locate it. I use 5W-30 btw, but that was in my 'old' 346. I'm going with Rotella T for the break-in on my 403.
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What Red Line product is that? The breakdown I saw was for 5W-30. I know Patman is the expert. I guess you can't believe everything you read.
I'll try to locate it. I use 5W-30 btw, but that was in my 'old' 346. I'm going with Rotella T for the break-in on my 403.
That MSDS is for all of their motor oils, they contain the same amount of zinc didingalingadingdong whatever regardless of weight. I broke my stroker in on Rotella T 15w40, and at the 5K mark switched to 10w40 redline per Patmans suggestion. I also run the Wix 51042 filter. Livernois Motorsports (Site sponsor) carries it, I'm close enough I can just go in and pick it up when I need it. They stock that Wix filter too, but I discovered the local parts store is cheaper for the filter

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Originally Posted by ArKay99
What Red Line product is that? The breakdown I saw was for 5W-30. I know Patman is the expert. I guess you can't believe everything you read.
I'll try to locate it. I use 5W-30 btw, but that was in my 'old' 346. I'm going with Rotella T for the break-in on my 403.
yeah rotella t seems to be the ticket for break in. My diesel sure loves it! i may switch to Rotella synthetic...the numbers look pretty darn good and the price-performance to the dollar cost is very good at Walmart!

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running that new 15/50 heavy duty stuff Mobil One just came out with ( more ZDDP) .

anyone have any numbers on that yet?

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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike94ZLT1
Yep, thats him. I think Patman hates Royal Purple more than anyone on the planet. He does independent testing, there was a thing a 2 or 3 years ago where he did all these tests and posted his results, basically showing royal purple to be garbage (MOTOR OIL, NOT TRANS OR REAR END FLUID) and RP got wind of his testing, tried to bribe him or make him take his results down and it turned into a giant fiasco. Between Patman's and TLewis's (RevXtreme) experiences, I wouldn't use royal purple in my lawn mower. Red Line is stupid expensive (It's 9 bucks a quart). I'm putting on a big oil cooler and 2 remote mount filters and increasing my capacity to 10 quarts over the winter, but I don't care. I have WAY to much time and money invested into this car to use anything but the best. And if that means an oil change costs me $100, then so be it. I've got well over $20K in mods to my car (none of that is labor as I do everything myself, so its in all parts) and I'm ridiculously **** about what goes into it.
i do luv Syncromax But I do think the Moly settles too fast in the motor oil
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