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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 04:51 AM
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Default LS1 Edit, is it out yet?

Does anyone have it?
Experience?

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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 05:01 AM
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Default Re: LS1 Edit, is it out yet? (SlowC5)

not yet...soon...
Once it is ... there will be a post... :D
I guess SteveCole is also working on a similar program... will be a good comparison.. hopefully it won't be limited in anyway once it locks to your car. ;)
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 05:04 AM
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Default Re: LS1 Edit, is it out yet? (intel55)

How about the unlimited version? Is that officially released?

BTW, the locking is for your own good. :p: :rolleyes:


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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 07:15 AM
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Default Re: LS1 Edit, is it out yet? (SlowC5)

MTI and Cartek have it, maybe a few other shops.

No end users yet.

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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 11:30 AM
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Default Re: LS1 Edit, is it out yet? (SlowC5)

I guess I missed something, what is it? :confused:
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 11:40 AM
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Default Re: LS1 Edit, is it out yet? (wallstAL)

The email i received from Dave at Carputing said the 1999/2000 unlimited version was being released now. I think the price is $3500.
They are still working on the manuals before releasing the individual version.
He also said the 1997/1998/2001 were quite a bit different meaning more time.
The 1998 should be ready by winter and then the 2001.

I am excited since i have a Y2k Corvette and a 1999 GMC 5.3L LS1 truck, which means i can use the same program for both.
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 11:40 AM
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Default Re: LS1 Edit, is it out yet? (wallstAL)

Well let's see...
If you have heard the term "Playing God"
then
If you have LS1 Edit then the new term is "Playing Steve Cole"

:D
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 12:18 PM
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The email i received from Dave at Carputing said the 1999/2000 unlimited version was being released now. I think the price is $3500.
They are still working on the manuals before releasing the individual version.
He also said the 1997/1998/2001 were quite a bit different meaning more time.
The 1998 should be ready by winter and then the 2001.

Yes, that is what they told me also!!!

Michael


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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 12:54 PM
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Default Re: LS1 Edit, is it out yet? (chuckster)

Well let's see...
If you have heard the term "Playing God"
then
If you have LS1 Edit then the new term is "Playing Steve Cole"

:D
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 11:07 AM
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Oh, I get it!
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 02:00 PM
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Default Re: LS1 Edit, is it out yet? (SlowC5)

LS1edit = Do ANYTHING you want to the PCM.

550 Bucks for consumer version due out anytime (not all year C5's tho yet).
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 02:31 PM
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Default Re: LS1 Edit, is it out yet? (kewlbrz)

LS1edit = Do ANYTHING you want to the PCM.

550 Bucks for consumer version due out anytime (not all year C5's tho yet).
Shawn,

Based on what you know, I have a few questions for you:

Do you figure there are any pitfalls to do it yourself programming with a product like this?

Can the average C5 owner be able to tweak properly without hurting anything?

Can the average C5 Owner expect to learn from guys like you and others who delve deeply in this stuff over a board like this in a manner that will be as easy as it seems?

Is diagnostic software like auto tap still necessary?


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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 02:43 PM
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Richard, OBD-II diag like autotap will still be needed to look at parameters.

Yes, someone can screw up thier timing and fuel tables, but as with most things its trial and error. Can someone hurt thier motor? Yes if they load a bad program and go out and banzai down the track or street. But it will be a baby step processs. Load, drive easy, scan, see whats going on, then step it up. LT1Edit thats been around for a while has lots of help out there for it.

You will pull down your current program, save it, and load up your edited program.

Here is an example of the LT1 features. LS1 edit features will be similar:

As always I will contribute any help I can as I ramp up to using it.

(from carputings site about thier current LT1 editor)

The Standard LT1 editor includes editing the following items:

Idle speed by temperature in Gear
Idle speed by temperature in Neutral & Park
Adjustment for Rear End ratio change and Tire size change.
Fan On temperature, First Stage Under MPH Speed threshold
Fan On temperature, First Stage Over MPH Speed threshold
Fan On temperature, Second Stage Under MPH Speed threshold
Fan On temperature, Second Stage Over MPH Speed threshold
MPH threshold for Fan threshold
Fan hysteresis temperature
Fuel Cutoff in MPH
Fuel cutoff in RPM while in First Gear
Fuel cutoff in RPM while in higher gears
Fuel Resume in MPH
Fuel Resume in RPM while in First Gear
Fuel Resume in RPM while in higher gears
For the A4 Trans:

Normal Mode Shift Speed in MPH vs Throttle Position for 1-2, 2-3, & 3-4 upshift
Normal Mode Shift Speed in MPH vs Throttle Position for 4-3, 3-2, & 2-1 downshift
Performance Mode Shift Speed in MPH vs Throttle Position for 1-2, 2-3, & 3-4 upshift
Performance Mode Shift Speed in MPH vs Throttle Position for 4-3, 3-2, & 2-1 downshift
Manual Mode Shift Speed in MPH vs Throttle Position for 1-2, 2-3, & 3-4 upshift
Manual Mode Shift Speed in MPH vs Throttle Position for 4-3, 3-2, & 2-1 downshift
Shift Pressure vs Temperature vs Throttle positio
Wide Open Throttle Shift Points in MPH
Normal Mode shift points in MPH while in Kickdown Mode
For the M6 Trans

CAGS(SKip Shift) Engage and disengage Speed in MP
CAGS Engage and Disengage Load in kp
CAGS Enable temperatur
CAGS Disable RP
CAGS % throttle to Disengage
The expert version adds:

These Fuel Tables
Open Loop AFR vs. Load vs. Temp
%TPS for WOT vs. RPM
Power enrichment vs. Temp
Power Enrichment vs. RPM
Volumetric Efficiency 0 to 7000 RPM vs. %TPS
MAF Calibration Frequency vs. Air Flow
Inlet Air Temperature Scaling
Cylinder size
Injector size
and these Ignition tables
Load vs. Advance vs. RPM
Load vs. Temp vs. Advance
Temp vs. Advance
Closed Throttle Spark Advance
Minimum Spark Advance
Maximum Knock Retard vs. RPM
Maximum Knock Retard vs. MAP
Knock Retard Attack Rate vs RPM
Knock Retard Decay Rate vs RPM
Knock Retard Minimum Coolant Temperature
Burst Knock Enable Temperature
Low Octane knock retard
Knock Count to enable Retard
and additional transmission parameters
TCC Apply vs. %TPS vs. MPH
TCC Release vs. %TPS vs. MPH
Line Pressure vs %Throttle vs MPH
Kick Down Mode Hot up and downshift in MPH
Hot shift vs. RPM
as well as the ability to disable or enable: VATS, traction control, and speed Density Mode. and verify the AIR hardware.



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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 02:48 PM
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Default Re: LS1 Edit, is it out yet? (kewlbrz)

Keep in mind the LS1 PCM is much more complicated than the LT1 PCM. For one there are more fuel tables, for different modes of operation and temperature. Also for example there are 64 SES codes that can be enabled or disabled, this is one reason documentation is taking longer to complete.

As always when you flash the PCM there is a danger or corrupting the PCM during that process. Besides that risk incorrectly programming the PCM could result in serious harm done to your car/engine.




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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 02:52 PM
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Bring on LS1 edit! Luckily, I have several friends who are quite good at LT1 edit and they'll be able to hold my hand and looks for any trouble Imay be causing.

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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 03:10 PM
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Thanks Shawn! I look forward to this and your insight. :)

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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 04:54 PM
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As always when you flash the PCM there is a danger or corrupting the PCM during that process. Besides that risk incorrectly programming the PCM could result in serious harm done to your car/engine.
Jeremy makes a good point. Flashing chips has a limit before degredation sets in. Typically though its in the 1000's of burn times.

Remember when messing with the PCM, that you always start off easy with a scan tool after flashing and make sure your parameters are looking good, and ramp up easy to WOT runs etc.
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 05:01 PM
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Can you "save" an image (not sure if the terminology fits) of the PCM before messing with it in case it gets messed up, then just restore it to the saved settings or factory default?
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 05:06 PM
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Yea, sure, Ghost technology for auto-chips. Wouldn't that be great.
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 05:20 PM
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Can you "save" an image (not sure if the terminology fits) of the PCM before messing with it in case it gets messed up, then just restore it to the saved settings or factory default?
Yes.
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