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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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When I had my car dyno'd it would nose over just a bit between 5000 and 5500 rpm and then pick back up and continue climbing to 6200. I spoke with a few people including the Tuner who modified the car and said it sounded like valve float and to get new springs.
It is an aftermarket cam with custom specs, and despite numerous messages, the shop has not gotten those specs to me.

How much of an impact do the specs have the springs needed? is it possible to pull the existing ones and figure out what to order from there? Can anyone recommend a good set.
Car is Stage 2 H/C dyno'd 438 rwhp on a dynojet and 405 rwhp (stopping @ 5k rpm due to above issue) on a mustang dyno

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When I had my car dyno'd it would nose over just a bit between 5000 and 5500 rpm and then pick back up and continue climbing to 6200. I spoke with a few people including the Tuner who modified the car and said it sounded like valve float and to get new springs.
It is an aftermarket cam with custom specs, and despite numerous messages, the shop has not gotten those specs to me.

How much of an impact do the specs have the springs needed? is it possible to pull the existing ones and figure out what to order from there? Can anyone recommend a good set.
Car is Stage 2 H/C dyno'd 438 rwhp on a dynojet and 405 rwhp (stopping @ 5k rpm due to above issue) on a mustang dyno

I appreciate the help!!!!!!
With any cam above 224/224 I would recommend dual valve springs, either comp 921's or Patriot Golds. I have used the Comp's before but now I am running the Patriots. Most people will also say these needs to be changed about every 20-25K miles depending on the cam size.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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Most springs are going to be rated to such and such lift. The Comp Cams 26921's or Patriot Golds are both great double springs.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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Knock retard will do the same thing. When it senses knock it backs off a bunch of timing - 5-6 degrees - and then adds it back in until it senses knock again.

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Knock retard will do the same thing. When it senses knock it backs off a bunch of timing - 5-6 degrees - and then adds it back in until it senses knock again.

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That's what I originally thought as well, but there was change in hum in the engine at that point....which I was told would not be knock retard...thoughts
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How many miles on the springs. My money would be on KR. Springs don't usually get better and conitnue to rev.
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How many miles on the springs. My money would be on KR. Springs don't usually get better and conitnue to rev.
Gotcha...roughly 12k miles.....would knock retard show up in the tune/ graph read out?
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A harmonic will cause this, what are the springs? Most aftermarket setups won't harmonic that low though. What are your seat and over the nose numbers? I would elect the PSI 1511 MLS springs, a beehive spring that should go well past 7K RPM when correctly setup. Very light and the titanium retainers for them are under 6 grams.

What are the details of the setup and can you post the dyno chart?
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I think that if it were valve float they would continue to float from 5000 RPM all the way up to 6200 RPM
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HP tuners will tell you if you've got KR kicking in.
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