All bore or stroker
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Re: All bore or stroker (Slammed Vette)
a few words says it all... BOTH!
THERE'S NO REPLACMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT..
One time behind the wheel of a 427 LS6 and you'll be hooked!
[Modified by nevrenuf, 10:52 PM 11/29/2001]
THERE'S NO REPLACMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT..
One time behind the wheel of a 427 LS6 and you'll be hooked!
[Modified by nevrenuf, 10:52 PM 11/29/2001]
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Re: All bore or stroker (Slammed Vette)
Given the choice of saving a LOT of money. An all bore stock stroke will peform better than a stock bore stroker in drag racing and roadracing scenarios.
Valves are unshroud, Quicker Revving, lots more durability.
Valves are unshroud, Quicker Revving, lots more durability.
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Re: All bore or stroker (Slammed Vette)
Bore, hands down! You can save a little money, but the main thing, as Kewlbrz mentioned will the the unshrouding of the valves. Considering most tuners are using the 2.055" valve on their heads and cam packages, this will help A LOT! The stock bore really should not have anything over a 2.02" valve on the intake IMHO.
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Re: All bore or stroker (Slammed Vette)
All bore. Has better bore/stroke ratio. Much better rever. Also, if you ever want to go to a 427 ish motor , all you will have to do is replace the crank. :cheers:
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Re: All bore or stroker (kewlbrz)
Given the choice of saving a LOT of money. An all bore stock stroke will peform better than a stock bore stroker in drag racing and roadracing scenarios.
Valves are unshroud, Quicker Revving, lots more durability.
Valves are unshroud, Quicker Revving, lots more durability.
Tony
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Re: All bore or stroker (nevrenuf)
a few words says it all... BOTH!
THERE'S NO REPLACMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT..
One time behind the wheel of a 427 LS6 and you'll be hooked!
[Modified by nevrenuf, 10:52 PM 11/29/2001]
THERE'S NO REPLACMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT..
One time behind the wheel of a 427 LS6 and you'll be hooked!
[Modified by nevrenuf, 10:52 PM 11/29/2001]
Tony
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Re: All bore or stroker (Slammed Vette)
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The Big Bore would be better than the stroker only, but go all the way and do both. I was going to do the Big Bore with stock stroke, but I knew I would have wanted the Big Engine. So I decided to go with the ARE 422 Studded Heads and O rings and 300 + shot of direct port Nitrous. That should get me down the track :D
I guess I will have to do that Bird Cage Thingy now :rolleyes:
The Big Bore would be better than the stroker only, but go all the way and do both. I was going to do the Big Bore with stock stroke, but I knew I would have wanted the Big Engine. So I decided to go with the ARE 422 Studded Heads and O rings and 300 + shot of direct port Nitrous. That should get me down the track :D
I guess I will have to do that Bird Cage Thingy now :rolleyes:
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Re: All bore or stroker (Tom Hall)
Tom, I can´t wait to see if you can ever hook up that
torque monster that you will get from ARE.
Your experience on that will help me to decide, once again :D
What can I wish more.....let you test it out and then only have to say
"the same engine for me please ":D:D
Low 9`s or who knows......8`s....here you come!!!!
Michael
torque monster that you will get from ARE.
Your experience on that will help me to decide, once again :D
What can I wish more.....let you test it out and then only have to say
"the same engine for me please ":D:D
Low 9`s or who knows......8`s....here you come!!!!
Michael
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Re: All bore or stroker (Nilla Ice)
I wouldn't go so far to say a 4.10 inch bore is much more reliable than a non bore 382 stroker is unless you are using the 6 litre cast iron truck block.. Produce more power yes, but more reliable? no... My friend has had zero bottom end problems with his 382 stroker...
Tony
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"The reliability of the resleved blocks at this point in time is not an issue at all, we have run a few in a roadrace conditions all year, 800+rwhp on No2 and everyday driving. A few years back there were some problems with this procedure and have learned the "hard" way but have learned! There is no dought that the "r" block is a better choice but the extra $4000+ in a job may make it affordable to some that don't have it, we were just trying to make the big engines "affordable", at least a bit more to some. "
Also even when going a superstroker, its better to have bore over the stroke combination.
-shawn
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Re: All bore or stroker (kewlbrz)
There is a trick to sleeving the blocks! I believe that Judson (SAM racing Camaro) was the first to figure this out. If you notice, they are still on their first motor. :) Must be a pretty good school...
So Tony, your statement some-odd months ago was completely true, but the reliability issuses with sleeving them is pretty much solved. :)
So Tony, your statement some-odd months ago was completely true, but the reliability issuses with sleeving them is pretty much solved. :)
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Re: All bore or stroker (kewlbrz)
800+rwhp on No2 and everyday driving.
Wow, that´s it!!!!!!
Can´t wait to have the money for that.
Hopefully soon!!!!
Michael
[Modified by Austrian Vette, 6:01 PM 11/30/2001]
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Re: All bore or stroker (Chris@SpeedDemon)
There is a trick to sleeving the blocks! I believe that Judson (SAM racing Camaro) was the first to figure this out. If you notice, they are still on their first motor. :) Must be a pretty good school...
So Tony, your statement some-odd months ago was completely true, but the reliability issuses with sleeving them is pretty much solved. :)
So Tony, your statement some-odd months ago was completely true, but the reliability issuses with sleeving them is pretty much solved. :)
Tony
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Re: All bore or stroker (kewlbrz)
Kewl,
Who is this person Nick is talking about? I'm seriously interested in talking with him. I see no value in building a stroker if you can't force feed it nitrous! :)
I only debated the all bore being more reliable than the all stroke statement.
Tony
[Modified by Nilla Ice, 12:41 PM 11/30/2001]
Who is this person Nick is talking about? I'm seriously interested in talking with him. I see no value in building a stroker if you can't force feed it nitrous! :)
I only debated the all bore being more reliable than the all stroke statement.
Tony
[Modified by Nilla Ice, 12:41 PM 11/30/2001]
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Re: All bore or stroker (Nilla Ice)
Not a week has gone by where their car has not been to the track. It usually goes a few times a week!!! Putting miles on your car a 1/4 mile at a time is probably a little more stressful that cruising to Austin... ;) Especially when you are floating the front tires the first 60'!!! :) :)