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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Just called an engine shop and he said if the motor is externally balanced then the flywheel cant be balanced? I want my Centerforce clutch along with my turned OEM flywheel to be balanced, can it?
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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The Gen III/IV platforms are all internally balanced.

I would now question whether thats the right place to take my parts to be balanced but perhaps they never get involved in the newer LS stuff....

Anyway....balance away....you wont have any issues assuming they balance it properly.

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Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR
The Gen III/IV platforms are all internally balanced.

I would now question whether thats the right place to take my parts to be balanced but perhaps they never get involved in the newer LS stuff....

Anyway....balance away....you wont have any issues assuming they balance it properly.

Tony
Thanks Tony!
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Maybe they're referring to the additional balancing weights on the balancer/pulley.... and I THOUGHT, the flywheel. Either way, though, those external weights don't really account for much (read: aftermarket pulleys wouldn't work if the extra few grams of weight made that much difference).

Further, how on earth are you SUPPOSED to get a new clutch/flywheel? Remove engine, new flywheel, external balance, reinstall engine? No way. Or are you supposed to transfer the little weights to the new flywheel, just like the official balancer/pulley method.

I will have to check my service manual on that one (for the official way, not the way everyone does it!)

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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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The weights inserted into the flywheel and damper are balance corrections made to the engine post assembly. It's wise to send your original and new flywheel to a good shop that can measure the out of balance condition of the old and have it duplicated in the new one. IF your original flywheel does not have any correction weights then you can install your new flywheel as is. The balance shop I work with has found that the factory flywheels are very close to zero without correction weights.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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The weights inserted into the flywheel and damper are balance corrections made to the engine post assembly. It's wise to send your original and new flywheel to a good shop that can measure the out of balance condition of the old and have it duplicated in the new one. IF your original flywheel does not have any correction weights then you can install your new flywheel as is. The balance shop I work with has found that the factory flywheels are very close to zero without correction weights.

This is the correct answer, i.e. mark before removing and match the imbalance of the removed flywheel and match to the new one, otherwise it's a crap-shoot that you'll have a less-than-stock vibration level. The only down-side to this method is you have no opportunity to improve on the stock balance.

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I am re-useing the OEM flywheel, should I have that and the clutch balanced together or am I good to go?
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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Take the flywheel, pressure plate and bolts to an informed machine shop.
They will balance the assembly together.
Mind their marks when you install it, if they take out the pins.
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what happens if it is not balanced?
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Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR
The Gen III/IV platforms are all internally balanced.

I would now question whether thats the right place to take my parts to be balanced but perhaps they never get involved in the newer LS stuff....

Anyway....balance away....you wont have any issues assuming they balance it properly.

Tony
Hi Tony,

Some LS6 Engines from the end of 2001 to mid 2002 at least were externally balanced...I have one of those!!!

My OEM Flywheel (saved carefully) in the pic below is showing the balancing from the factory with the Dowel Pins finally adding some extra weight.
I used it everytime a new clutch goes in for the match balancing:



48 grammes off balance is were is my OEM clutch assembly is, and once (first time) I had a zero balanced clutch mounted in...that was undrivable with very unbalanced situation between 2700rpm to 5200rpm.

ALWAYS check if DOWEL PINS are present in your OEM Flywheel...quick, simple and efficient.

Christian
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