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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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I have posted on CF several times soliciting feedback on two problems I had related to my HID kits. I tried two different kits from the large auction site and had the same two problems. First, my headlights would not retract when I rotated the light switch to off, UNLESS my high beams were on. Second, one light would intermittently have problems turning on. This seemed to happen when I'd turn them off/on quickly.

Last weekend, I bought relays from Radio Shack and installed them in my car and BOTH PROBLEMS WENT AWAY.

BTW, some folks say you can make these relay harnesses for $10... this is what it took me.

(2) 30-Amp Automotive Relays (Radio Shack, $6.99 each)
(1) Small spool of 12 gauge wire (Radio Shack, $4.99)
(2) Fuses/fuseholder (Autozone, $2.99 each)
(1) package of heatshrink (optional, not sure on cost)

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Wire strippers/cutters
Flat head screwdriver
8mm wrench
10, 13mm sockets
Torx sockets (2 sizes, I think T10 and T15)
Misc connectors for wiring

My "$10" harnesses cost me closer to $25-28. I figure that's the normal internet translation of "$10".
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Can you give any info on how to connect the relays, like to which wires etc? Props on the parts list. Also, what amp fuses did you use and where did you place them?

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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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Yep,

I have been telling everyone that posts about HIDs to use a dedicated battery based relay wiring harness......resolved all my issues. You can buy such a harness on the bay for $20-30 shipped

Every quality aftermarket lighting system comes with such a wiring harness.
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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For those of us who are not good with wiring...whats the basic process here? It doesn't help to know that a relay fixes the problem if you don't know where it goes.
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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This is a situation where a couple of good pics would be helpful!
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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Unfortunately, I can't take pictures because I chose to install the relay next to the balast under my headlights. I'd have to remove my headlights to show you.

Installation is very easy. You relay should have 4 contacts on it which are all numbered. The back of the package explains which terminal needs to be connected where. It's very straightforward.

The fuseholders came with 30 amp fuses so that's what I used. The fuseholders sit next to my battery.

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Originally Posted by NassyVette
For those of us who are not good with wiring...whats the basic process here? It doesn't help to know that a relay fixes the problem if you don't know where it goes.
Just save yourself the hassle and go on eBay and buy a dedicated battery based relay wiring harness. You can buy such a harness on the bay for $20-30 shipped
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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This was from the PnP kit with a harness that I had on my other car, but same deal....goin on the Vette tomorrow. Hope it helps!

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This should help, not specifically talking HIDs but the principle is the same!

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ys/relays.html

The load of the relays on the lighting circuit fool the car into thinking there are normal bulbs installed. 2002 up vettes sense a burned out bulb and will not retract the headlight assembly to notify you. As an added benifit you can upgrade the wiring this way to allow for higher wattage bulbs.

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good tips.
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warpster, excellent link man. Thanks!
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by warpster
This should help, not specifically talking HIDs but the principle is the same!

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ys/relays.html

The load of the relays on the lighting circuit fool the car into thinking there are normal bulbs installed. 2002 up vettes sense a burned out bulb and will not retract the headlight assembly to notify you. As an added benifit you can upgrade the wiring this way to allow for higher wattage bulbs.
FWIW, mine is a 2001.
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Originally Posted by MattZ28
This was from the PnP kit with a harness that I had on my other car, but same deal....goin on the Vette tomorrow. Hope it helps!

Anyone know where I can get the female connector (to stock headlight harness) in the picture? Autozone has the male connectors for the 9006 bulbs, but I couldn't find the female.
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Originally Posted by rcataldo
Anyone know where I can get the female connector (to stock headlight harness) in the picture? Autozone has the male connectors for the 9006 bulbs, but I couldn't find the female.
Yep, search 9005 plug on the bay, I got a set that has male and female pairs for about $10
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Okay, for those who like me, need a whole lot more detail on this than what this thread is providing, go here. Post #22 is where I start the discussion about the harness that this thread is referring to. Read it in detail and you'll not only be able to figure out where to get one, but you'll also know exactly what it is called.

I too found this somewhat confusing when listening to guys who know what they're doing. I on the other hand need really big pictures with big ol' numbers and step by step instruction that include details...like when to breath and stuff like that.

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008
I too found this somewhat confusing when listening to guys who know what they're doing. I on the other hand need really big pictures with big ol' numbers and step by step instruction that include details...like when to breath and stuff like that.
I am soooo glad you joined this Forum

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Originally Posted by stormrider
I am soooo glad you joined this Forum


I'm too old to pretend that I know what I'm doing when I don't!
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Originally Posted by jrprich
Yep,

I have been telling everyone that posts about HIDs to use a dedicated battery based relay wiring harness......resolved all my issues. You can buy such a harness on the bay for $20-30 shipped

Every quality aftermarket lighting system comes with such a wiring harness.

bringin the thread back, i've been having problems with my hid's randomly not working, it happens to either side completly unpredictable, i just ordered one of the harnesses off ebay i hope it fixes the problem!!
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