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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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I hate kooks headers, i tried to install them today in my garage. Without any luck, i jacked the car up all the way, jacked the motor up for room...still no room for the header to slide down . The bend right at the collector kept hitting the bell housing. And to make matters worse i ended up snapping 2 studs off one of the manifolds where it connect to the mid pipe putting the car back together!

So my car is getting dropped off at advanced dyno on friday for... cam install, lt's, ported tb, and tune

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I hate kooks headers, i tried to install them today in my garage. Without any luck, i jacked the car up all the way, jacked the motor up for room...still no room for the header to slide down . The bend right at the collector kept hitting the bell housing. And to make matters worse i ended up snapping 2 studs off one of the manifolds where it connect to the mid pipe putting the car back together!

So my car is getting dropped off at advanced dyno on friday for... cam install, lt's, ported tb, and tune
Have you had better luck with other header installs in the past?
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damn man they were a pain, but i had beer so i just took my time.

advanced will fix you up in no time.


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Have you had better luck with other header installs in the past?

all install posts and such i read for instructions did not work for me no matter what i did.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SICVENM
all install posts and such i read for instructions did not work for me no matter what i did.
So the instructions that came with the headers were no help? My original question was pertaining to your experience installing headers in the past. I was just wondering what you found difficult about the Kooks compared to other LT headers you have installed in the past.
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Ive installed headers on my 2001 cobra and 1968 firebird, and my buddies 2003 cobra, much more harder i would think then these. No big deal, this will be the first time iv'e ever taken my own car to get worked on.
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headers are something im not brave enough to tackle.. but i have kooks on my car and love them, haven't had any problems with them in almost a year now
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Ive installed headers on my 2001 cobra and 1968 firebird, and my buddies 2003 cobra, much more harder i would think then these. No big deal, this will be the first time iv'e ever taken my own car to get worked on.
68' Firebird? That's not a fair comparison. Changing headers on an old F body was a piece of cake compared to a C5. Sorry you had trouble. Still wondering, did the Kooks headers come with directions? If so, were they easy to follow?
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The common mistake is to unbolt the lower bolts too much. All that does is lift the motor. You need to only back the opposite side 2 turn max.
I installed 2" headers on the drivers side by myself without ANY issues whatsoever. You just CANT outsmart the install

Robert will get her handled..He's got a killer sawzall and JB weld.. (Just so no-one FREAKS out, Robert and I are good buddies)

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You won't hate them after you get them installed
They were tough to install, but like they said, somtimes you need to walk away and come back (with a big ) and THINK it through. They definitly DO go on and are a big increase in power and torque
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Mine were easy to install, but my heads were off at the time.
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I think you needed to install them from the bottom.

Drivers side should go in from the bottom with no issue. Passenger side you'll need to remove the starter. Car has to be up high to allow room to twist the header in.
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I spent a good 8 hrs on my first back in the day , I wasn't going to let the headers win. If others can do it, why can't I?

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I had to take the oil filter and line off for the drivers side, and the battery partition, battery, and starter for the passenger side.
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I've installed 2 sets of Kooks headers... my first were their original design which were notorious for install issues, the 2nd were the newer design which had been massaged for easier install.

I found the second set to be easier, but neither were anywhere near as hard as people had made them out to be and to me it's the trade off you take to get equal length primaries (internet rumor mill/marketing tells me Kooks have the closest to true equal length primaries of any brand out there, but what the hell do I know ).

You need to take everything off the car:

1. Alternator
2. Coil packs and plug wires
3. Valve covers
4. Oil filter
5. Starter

I think that's about it... then you need to unbolt the motor mounts from the bottom. It's just 1 18mm nut per side. Then take your jack and a wood board and jack up the motor slowly until it won't go anymore, don't force it.

Then the headers will slide in from the top with a little cursing Here's a picture I took when I removed my first set after an AIR tube blew off at VIR (road race track).


I replaced them w/ their "race" version which have no AIR tubes at all (I deleted my AIR system)
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This post is not going to help me sell the spare set of Kooks in the garage LOL. Robert will fix you up.
Originally Posted by SICVENM
I hate kooks headers, i tried to install them today in my garage. Without any luck, i jacked the car up all the way, jacked the motor up for room...still no room for the header to slide down . The bend right at the collector kept hitting the bell housing. And to make matters worse i ended up snapping 2 studs off one of the manifolds where it connect to the mid pipe putting the car back together!

So my car is getting dropped off at advanced dyno on friday for... cam install, lt's, ported tb, and tune
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Yes Robert's crew will get them in for you w/o any problems...
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ok i know my f body is no comparison, but the cobras are....I unbolted and took everything off i needed, but no luck....the original plan was to just have Robert install them. But i got curious and decided to do it myself and ended up biting me in the ***.
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Originally Posted by SICVENM
ok i know my f body is no comparison, but the cobras are....I unbolted and took everything off i needed, but no luck....the original plan was to just have Robert install them. But i got curious and decided to do it myself and ended up biting me in the ***.
Well, I'm sure at the end of the day, everything is going to come out alright. Keep us posted when you have her finished
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Looking forward to getting you all set up!!
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