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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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Guys,

In looking at a ported vs non orted TB...I don't see much difference. The OEM has an opening on the inside leading to an outlet which connects to the valve cover. The ported one, is similar just contoured to the shape of the inner part of the TB with a hole leading to the back exit like above.

So how does this improve anything. Is it that it limits the exiting air to the vac line and makes more flow through the baffle to the intake manifold?

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see pics here:

http://www.s2performance.net/vettepage.html

the idea behind a ported TB is 2 things:

a) 75mm vs 78mm ported diam = 360mm^2 more cross sectional area at the most restrictive area of the throttle body. This results in mroe volume of airflow and contributes to the HP/TQ increase

b) the larger butterfly valve is what increases throttle response. Since the blade on the ported TB is larger, this means that it can be opened the same amount as an OEM size blade and flow more air.
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Originally Posted by TheRadioFlyer
see pics here:

http://www.s2performance.net/vettepage.html

the idea behind a ported TB is 2 things:

a) 75mm vs 78mm ported diam = 360mm^2 more cross sectional area at the most restrictive area of the throttle body. This results in mroe volume of airflow and contributes to the HP/TQ increase

b) the larger butterfly valve is what increases throttle response. Since the blade on the ported TB is larger, this means that it can be opened the same amount as an OEM size blade and flow more air.
I have never seen a porter replace the factory butterfly on an LS1 throttlebody. All they do is smooth and polish the opening, but it is still the stock size. I do know people who will take a stock LT1 throttle body with the dual 48mm openings and bore them out and replace them with 52mm blades, but never on an LS1.
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The sharp edges on the stock TB around the PCV inlet port causes a large turbulence in the incoming air flow path--The polished and ported ones get rid of that strange opening--fill it in--and eliminate the turbulence--This increases the maximum flow of air without increasing the actual size of the opening--Slimming the blade helps--as does slimming the screws--But thats really all you can do with a stock TB--You get better throttle reponse--maybe an 8 HP gain--
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8hp ??? try 2
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pointless on a stock motor, not pointless on bigger cubes or FI.
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Originally Posted by TheRadioFlyer
see pics here:

http://www.s2performance.net/vettepage.html

the idea behind a ported TB is 2 things:

a) 75mm vs 78mm ported diam = 360mm^2 more cross sectional area at the most restrictive area of the throttle body. This results in mroe volume of airflow and contributes to the HP/TQ increase

b) the larger butterfly valve is what increases throttle response. Since the blade on the ported TB is larger, this means that it can be opened the same amount as an OEM size blade and flow more air.
My understanding and I may be wrong but air does not flow evenly though that diameter of the tb, Plus depending on the air intake, they may be quite a bit or air turbulence coming into the tb.

So just putting on a ported tb may not work, Unless there are the other properly match parts as an air intake that does not unless cause air turbulences, Properly and polished manifold( which is very easy to mess up, PP heads, proper LT headers and exhaust. Plus tunned to make it all work.

So making the whole package work together is the magic, not just bolt on and go.

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Originally Posted by tblu92
The sharp edges on the stock TB around the PCV inlet port causes a large turbulence in the incoming air flow path--The polished and ported ones get rid of that strange opening--fill it in--and eliminate the turbulence--This increases the maximum flow of air without increasing the actual size of the opening--Slimming the blade helps--as does slimming the screws--But thats really all you can do with a stock TB--You get better throttle reponse--maybe an 8 HP gain--

That is the answer I was going to post. Filling in the hole and smoothing it out helps direct the airflow.
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Thanks for the info guys...i figured it had to do with smoothing the air flow.

How air enters the engine is really interesting. I saw a show on tv where they dyno'd a car before and after adding a 1/2 in riser under the carb and it yielded another 14 hp.

The reason given is that it increased air velocity.

Cool stuff!
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