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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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My vette has tpis headers with the AIR tubes welded on. The air pump system seems to be hooked up and intact. I am not running cats. Do I need to run the air pump. Can I just block off those emmision tubes? Also my car is getting exhaust in the cabin. I cant find a leak anywhere. Is it possible the leak is coming from the AIR system? This is my suspician. Thank in advance for any help guys.
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The AIR system consists of nothing more than an electric blower which resides under your left headlight, and upon startup, pumps some fresh air into the exhaust stream for a minute or so after a cold start to help the cats light off quicker.

There is no harm in removing it, and blocking off the header ports, but you will get the check engine light unless you have those AIR-related codes turned off (tuning software req'd).

When you do remove the AIR tubing and check valves around the engine, you'll likely find you'll have to remove the intake manifold to get to to the bolt at the rear of the right head securing the right side AIR tube.

And it's doubtful exhaust fumes in the cabin is a result of the AIR system...but perhaps if one of the AIR tubes got disconnected before it's check valve...but you'd certainly hear a leak like that in the engine bay.


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Originally Posted by dalandlord
My vette has tpis headers with the AIR tubes welded on. The air pump system seems to be hooked up and intact. I am not running cats. Do I need to run the air pump. Can I just block off those emmision tubes? Also my car is getting exhaust in the cabin. I cant find a leak anywhere. Is it possible the leak is coming from the AIR system? This is my suspician. Thank in advance for any help guys.
good question:
I was thinking about removing my AIR system also, when I install my new heads, and headers....

Y2Kvert4me, so ur saying it wont effect annything? will the car run the same or get better gas milage?
thanks
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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the AIR system only runs until the cats warm up. You won't see any change in car operation - unless you don't turn off the check engine code that will be set.
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Originally Posted by birch64
good question:
I was thinking about removing my AIR system also, when I install my new heads, and headers....

Y2Kvert4me, so ur saying it wont effect annything? will the car run the same or get better gas milage?
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Car will run the same, mileage - no difference.

I just looked at my tune file, and (at east for a 2001), the AIR pump will run at startup for 240 seconds (4 minutes), unless the engine goes above 2825 rpm for longer than 5 continuous seconds.

After the pump shuts off, either because it timed out, or because the RPM was up....the whole system becomes dead weight and does nothing until the next start.

If you have the infamous exhaust popping on decel...you might find that goes away.

And, if you haven't already got the headers....get them made w/o the AIR flanges...ir really cleans up the engine bay.




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thanks, I already have the TPIS headers with the air tube(2000). I think they make a peice to cover the tube if not needed....
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Yeah, block-off plates are available. I know Thunder Racing sells them, that's where I got mine.

(my new headers pictured above are not on yet, but my AIR system has been gone for over a year).

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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
Yeah, block-off plates are available. I know Thunder Racing sells them, that's where I got mine.

(my new headers pictured above are not on yet, but my AIR system has been gone for over a year).

hope i didn't hijack this thread, think we have the same questions....
thanks for the advice...
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