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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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There's a little bit of confusion in this thread from what I've read. The Z06 windshield is indeed lighter, at least the OEM windshields were. Here are the specs:

36.09 lbs - C5 Windshield
30.39 lbs - Z06 Windshield

They should be interchangeable and both offer the HUD laminate option. The one thing that is different is that the Coupe had the radio antenna wire strip attached to the windshield and hatch glass whereas the Z06 had the mast antenna in the back. I've never been able to get a straight answer if the wire strip antenna comes with the coupe windshield already installed or it's something you attach seperately. If it's the latter, it would be pretty easy then to get the wire strip antenna and use it for a Z06 Windshield for a coupe.
It is not a strip it is made in the glass you can not move it or transfer it to another glass...
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by glassman15
It is not a strip it is made in the glass you can not move it or transfer it to another glass...
If that's the case, this complicates things if you wanted to put a Z06 windshield on a coupe.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Okay, Nags means National Auto Glass Specifications. They compile all of the part numbers for all the glass for every vehicle. From windshields to backlites (back glass) to door glass, and vents and sun/moon roof glass.
So the part number DW 1313 means domestic windshield part number 1313. All glass manufacturers (ppg, pilkington, lof, etc....which all three of these are oem manufacturers for GM) that make windshields for corvette coupes will have the part number DW1313.
A hatch glass would be DBXXXX. Meaning Domestic Back XXXX. The Door would be DDXXXX. Meaning Domestic DoorXXXX. And Foreign would be the same exept for an F instead of the D.
As far as the numbers on an oem piece of glass, those are mainly for the glass foundry to identify what they are making. The numbers are for glass runs so that if there is a problem with a particular run, they can recall all of the pieces so that there aren't hundreds of windows out there being installed with issues like waves in the glass or warpage, etc.
My knowledge on auto glass stems from installing since 1992 and owning my auto glass business since 1994.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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The antenna wire is inside the laminate which is the vinyl between the two pieces of glass that make the windshield. The windshield is made with the laminate so that it doesn't blow apart when a rock hits it the way tempered glass does.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by red88L98convert
Okay, Nags means National Auto Glass Specifications. They compile all of the part numbers for all the glass for every vehicle. From windshields to backlites (back glass) to door glass, and vents and sun/moon roof glass.
So the part number DW 1313 means domestic windshield part number 1313. All glass manufacturers (ppg, pilkington, lof, etc....which all three of these are oem manufacturers for GM) that make windshields for corvette coupes will have the part number DW1313.
A hatch glass would be DBXXXX. Meaning Domestic Back XXXX. The Door would be DDXXXX. Meaning Domestic DoorXXXX. And Foreign would be the same exept for an F instead of the D.
As far as the numbers on an oem piece of glass, those are mainly for the glass foundry to identify what they are making. The numbers are for glass runs so that if there is a problem with a particular run, they can recall all of the pieces so that there aren't hundreds of windows out there being installed with issues like waves in the glass or warpage, etc.
My knowledge on auto glass stems from installing since 1992 and owning my auto glass business since 1994.
So is there any way you can cross-reference the GM part nubers in my previous post to the NAGS numbers ????

Specifically these part numbers .....

10295096
10295097
10426713
10426714 (no longer a valid GM number)
10426201 (no longer a valid GM number)
10315114

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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Unfortunatly BLACK, there really isn't a way, at least that I am aware of, to reference the actual OEM part number with the specific NAGS number as the NAGS number will contain superceded OEM part numbers.
As one of the previous posts stated that 97-04 coupes were a certain part number and 98-04 were another part number, the NAGS pn would be DW1313 which would be correct for either application. Kind of confusing but really, the bottom line is IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WINDOW GETS PUT IN THE CAR!!! So long as it's an OEM piece, there really is no point in getting all waded up over what specific part number is in there. I would simply have the glass company do a search for the part number with the vin of the car to get the correct glass. When I did my 98 coupe last October, I got a duplicate of the original Lamisafe glass that came in my car from the factory.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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I had the glass in my Z replaced last year and the glass company had a listing for an 03Z with HUD that was different than what the coupe listing was. As for somebody at the glass company being able to tell what the differences are (thicker, HUD, etc) don't expect much as all they are are receptionists, installers and gofors that deal with a lot of windshields on a weekly basis and have desire to know specifics if it doesn't affect the install.

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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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with regards to your questions about the targa top. i ordered a new top for my 98 in August of 07. the dealer told me that all the tops were on back order. further inquiry found that the back-order was due to GM changing vendors for the tops due to quality control issues with the existing vendor.
so i finally got my new top in October. it was fine, but when i turned on the air and had the windows up, there was a terrible vacuum leak in the interior. i took the top of and found that the encapsulation had separated for about four inches along the front passenger side of the top. the encapsulation is what holds the plexiglass to the frame.
so i ordered another one and when i got it, i checked the same area. it had urethane in it holding it together. i also found a tiny piece of a warranty tag that was supposed to be completely removed. so what i think i got was a warrantied top that had the same encapsuation issue of the first top that the manufacturer 'fixed' with urethane and sent it back to the dealer!
i half way thought about doing that to the first one that i received from the dealer anyway. since i did all this through an insurance claim, i didn't really care to much about it since i wasn't paying for it and i'll be replacing the windshield again soon and probably the top within the year.
so, long post longer, you will/should be getting an OEM top if you are requesting OEM parts.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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Good info here too ...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ghlight=DW1430
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
I had the glass in my Z replaced last year and the glass company had a listing for an 03Z with HUD that was different than what the coupe listing was. As for somebody at the glass company being able to tell what the differences are (thicker, HUD, etc) don't expect much as all they are are receptionists, installers and gofors that deal with a lot of windshields on a weekly basis and have desire to know specifics if it doesn't affect the install.

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Originally Posted by Alex1217
If that's the case, this complicates things if you wanted to put a Z06 windshield on a coupe.
The coupes are unique critters in the C5 glass area as they are the only ones with antenna wires in the glass.

The hardtops and convertibles share some of the same glass part numbers. My only question goes to the lighter weight Z06 version.
Is there a hud/non-hud version of the Z06 specific glass? I'm thinking there isn't.
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i would never switch to the lighter glass. the lighter glass is lighter because it's thinner. thinner glass will crack easier than thicker glass when a rock dings it while you're going down the road. also, pits are more likely to be dings than pits. unless of course you like changing out the glass regularly.
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Originally Posted by red88L98convert
i would never switch to the lighter glass. the lighter glass is lighter because it's thinner. thinner glass will crack easier than thicker glass when a rock dings it while you're going down the road. also, pits are more likely to be dings than pits. unless of course you like changing out the glass regularly.
I'm with you on that one. The very small weight "saving" isn't worth it to me.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by red88L98convert
i would never switch to the lighter glass. the lighter glass is lighter because it's thinner. thinner glass will crack easier than thicker glass when a rock dings it while you're going down the road. also, pits are more likely to be dings than pits. unless of course you like changing out the glass regularly.
I can attest to the cracking bit. I cracked the windshield on my Z by following the instructions to remove the mirror. Push up, etc until you hear a click, however, the click was large cracking sound with a crack running from the mirror mount to the top of the windshield.

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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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I got a z my glass is still good to go. Thinner or not??? Maybe but still no matter what had to meet oem guidelines. PPG tell me they are the same thickness between the z06 and the coupe?
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by glassman15
I got a z my glass is still good to go. Thinner or not??? Maybe but still no matter what had to meet oem guidelines. PPG tell me they are the same thickness between the z06 and the coupe?
Z06 is glass is thinner from the factory. Of this I am certain. It was one of the many things done to reduce weight on the Z06 Corvettes.


I am amazed by how many of us are confused by the overall lack of information on part numbers and applications for the various Corvette windshields available. Thank you again to all of you who have taken the time to post with your findings.

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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 02:13 AM
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just have the shop slap in a shield and be done with it. part number shmart number. if its an oem glass its fine. part numbers don't keep the wind outta your face or the bugs outta your teeth!
oem is most important when it comes to federal roll-over safety standards...which is why many states do not allow you to have a cracked windshield when inspection time comes, as the windshield is a component of the overall structural integrity of the car. the same way a motorcycle helmet loses its dot rating just by dropping it, a cracked w/s destroys the integrity of the A pillar frame. although, if you roll in a vette, well just make sure your life insurance is paid up regardless of the part number!
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by red88L98convert
just have the shop slap in a shield and be done with it. part number shmart number. if its an oem glass its fine. part numbers don't keep the wind outta your face or the bugs outta your teeth!
oem is most important when it comes to federal roll-over safety standards...which is why many states do not allow you to have a cracked windshield when inspection time comes, as the windshield is a component of the overall structural integrity of the car. the same way a motorcycle helmet loses its dot rating just by dropping it, a cracked w/s destroys the integrity of the A pillar frame. although, if you roll in a vette, well just make sure your life insurance is paid up regardless of the part number!
What makes you say that ?????

These cars have remarkable structural integrity .... look carefully at this one ... the windshied is in PERFECT condition ... not a crack in it .....

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/corvet...0901_003.shtml

Here's a C4 rolled 3 times and occupants walked away ....

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/corvet...0607_002.shtml

And a C6 that looks like the driver would have to be removed with a spatula ... read the description ... "walked away" ......

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/corvet...0923_001.shtml

And check this one out .... convertible ..... notice the drivers door window is still in perfect condition .....

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/corvet...1220_001.shtml

With the hydroformed frame the Corvette is a surprisingly strong car. The coupe and FRC have the added benefit of the built in "roll hoop", but the windshield structure will support a rolled convertible ..... at least at "normal" road speeds (I ain't talking multiple rolls starting at 125 MPH) ....

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true about the safety of these cars, however, you could also pull several photos of cars with dead people too. i have an insurance agency and everyone should have life insurance anyway.
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