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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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I posted this in General, but thought I may pick the brains of those who post here too.

I have been reading all the post concernogn the Column lock, I have had at least one recall done, cause the K harness is still there.
I went to start the car, 98 coupe a4 37000 mi. and got a message to pull key and wait ten seconds. I did that and now am getting the service column lock. The fuel cuts off over 2 mph. I tried cleaning the key pellet, used my spare key, battery voltage 12.3 volts.
I purchased the CLB from Corvettes of Houston and installed as instructed, I erased all codes from the DIC pulled fuses 25 & 29 for 30 minutes. In short I have followed all the advice I could find so far.
I reinstalled the k harness, no change, disconnected the k harness and hooked up the lock as original, no change. I reinstalled the CLB, no change. What if any thing else could I do to get the car running again.
I just built a new garage to house the car, I guess she wants to stay out to show off, still have my sense of humor, buta not for long if I can't get this figured out.
Thanks for any advice
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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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The only thing I can think of is that you may have gotten a faulty CLB. Its rare, but it does happen. I'd call COH and have them send out another one.
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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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try removing the CLB and/or the K Harness completely and plug your harness back to stock to see if that works. If your steering column lock has not failed, it should work and if it does, your CLB is faulty.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 12:37 AM
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The CLB won't work once the recall has been done. You need to get your car returned to its original state, then reinstall the CLB.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by striper
The CLB won't work once the recall has been done. You need to get your car returned to its original state, then reinstall the CLB.
Why do you say that? What do you base your comment on? CLB should work fine on his car once the K Harness is removed.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 05:33 AM
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According to the reciept I have, recall 04006 has been done in Aug 2004

When I disconnected the K harness and reconnected the stock wiring I still got the message. I pulled fuses 25 &29 for about 30 min still got the message. I removed teh stock wiring and repeated the process, same result.
After a lot of research, I think the micro switch? may be at fault, so now I guess I will have to take more stuff apart to see if that helps.
I was going with a few friends to the Corvettes at Waterside Show this weekend, but I guess this is one I will miss, first one in 5 years.
When it rains it pours.
Thanks for your replies, and if you guys think of anything else, please reply.

Thanks for your help
Pops

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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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I have heard rumors of some early C5s where the CLB will not work, this is the first time I heard of a documented case. The COH CLB works fine on my 98 C5 Coupe.

I assume your column is unlocked (if not, you must unlock it before installing the CLB), and you are only getting the fuel cutoff. Someone with a Tech II can reprogram the fuel cutoff for over 200 mph and this will fix it. A dealer may not want to do this because of liablity, BUT the latest recall removes the locking plate, so if yours is removed I don't see why they would not reprogram.

Good luck and let us know how it works out for you.

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Originally Posted by pops98
According to the reciept I have, recall 04006 has been done in Aug 2004

When I disconnected the K harness and reconnected the stock wiring I still got the message. I pulled fuses 25 &29 for about 30 min still got the message. I removed teh stock wiring and repeated the process, same result.
After a lot of research, I think the micro switch? may be at fault, so now I guess I will have to take more stuff apart to see if that helps.
I was going with a few friends to the Corvettes at Waterside Show this weekend, but I guess this is one I will miss, first one in 5 years.
When it rains it pours.
Thanks for your replies, and if you guys think of anything else, please reply.

Thanks for your help
Pops
PM sent with my cellphone number. Call me tonight and I will help you so hopefully you can go to your event this weekend.
Cheers,
John
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Sounds like you have tried every combination to satisfy the BCM that I can think of. I have never heard of a re-program that would keep the original actuator from working, unless the actuator itself has failed.
It is possible that, 1)your actuator has failed in the locked position, 2) the relay in the Harness K has failed (fairly common) and 3) you also have a bad CLB relay.
The only other thing I can think of to try is, try a known good Harness K or aftermarket CLB.

Do you still hear the column lock actuator cycle when you turn the key off or on?

There is no micro-switch in the column lock actuator. The motor just drives the pin until it cannot go any further.


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Originally Posted by Cscokd
Why do you say that? What do you base your comment on? CLB should work fine on his car once the K Harness is removed.
The dealer probably also reflashed his computer, it's part of the recall.
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by striper
The dealer probably also reflashed his computer, it's part of the recall.
the re-flash will NOT prevent the CLB from working properly. The CLB should work in a 1998 C5. If the stock column lock motor, the K-Harness AND the CLB all three do not work it points to the following possibilities:
1. one of several fuses to BCM (most likely)
2. wiring to the CLB (black ground wire open or intermittent)
3. BCM or connector/wiring between CLB and BCM
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 06:10 AM
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He has an A4 which I don't believe get any re-flash with the harness k, just the 6 spds. get the reflash??
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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Is the steering wheel locked? Or is the block off plate in there? I have the recall done and my CLB works just fine! If the steering wheel wont turn, then you have no choice but to take it in and get it unlocked....the CLB will NOT unlock an already locked column
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mrm1149
He has an A4 which I don't believe get any re-flash with the harness k, just the 6 spds. get the reflash??
Wrong. I have an '00 A4 that had the recall performed. Dealer reflashed the car, because when the K Harnesss failed, the car started, but shut fuel off at 2 mph, just as described above. Only thing, is I simply removed the K Harness, and pulled the fuses as well as disconnect and reconnect battery, and the car started and ran fine. I then ordered and installed a CLB and have had no problems since.
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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ITS Fixed
Thanks for all your help and especially John (cscoked) you hit the nail right on the head with the fuses. I had the time to check all the fuses under the passenger footwell and # 23 was blown. I looked at the fuse information diagram and any fuse that was connected to the BCM was checked in order.
Reinstalled the CLB and no message, I had to take her for a test drive and I can tell you all , I don't know, at what MPH the fuel will cut off at, but she won't cut off at the speed I travel.

Thanks again for all the advice and info, and I wish I waould be the last one to post problems with the column lock, but I probably won't
I even get her clean enough to go to the Corvettes at Waterside show (Relay for Life )


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Perfect! So glad you got it fixed and you could make it to the show.
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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Great job Cscokd

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