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Old May 4, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Just picked up a 2002 A4 with 3,100 miles and I'm looking at adding a Vararam B2. Question - will I need a tune? I know that a tune will pick up additional HP but I'm just trying to get started for now. Also, I know it's a slippery slope.
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Old May 4, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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A VARARAM will mess with your MAF calibration. Trust me on this one. You will gain seat of the pants HP but may see a slight drop in your fuel mileage average as your PCM will need to add fuel and your fuel LT trims slew positive. You can tune it back in. A good tune will never hurt. Get as many mods added as you can and get her tuned.

In my case I added Stainless Works LT headers & the VARARAM at the same time and saw a large drop in economy and a big rise in HP. The good news, I got it tuned and saw 390 at the rear wheels on my 02 ZO6.
I just added Heads/cam/FAST 90 and new injectors and I will have to start all over again with the tune.

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If you don't plan to add anything for at least 6 months then definitely get a tune. My car dropped 3 tenths with just the install of the vararam(no tune) in worse conditions, but 1 tenth of that was contributed by the 60ft. So I definitely dropped 2 tenths with just the vararam. I think with a tune I will drop another two, but I am getting headers very very soon so I am going to wait until after them to get it tuned.
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Old May 4, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
A VARARAM will mess with your MAF calibration. Trust me on this one. You will gain seat of the pants HP but may see a slight drop in your fuel mileage average as your PCM will need to add fuel and your fuel LT trims slew positive. You can tune it back in. A good tune will never hurt. Get as many mods added as you can and get her tuned.

In my case I added Stainless Works LT headers & the VARARAM at the same time and saw a large drop in economy and a big rise in HP. The good news, I got it tuned and saw 390 at the rear wheels on my 02 ZO6.
I just added Heads/cam/FAST 90 and new injectors and I will have to start all over again with the tune.

BC
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If you don't plan to add anything for at least 6 months then definitely get a tune. My car dropped 3 tenths with just the install of the vararam(no tune) in worse conditions, but 1 tenth of that was contributed by the 60ft. So I definitely dropped 2 tenths with just the vararam. I think with a tune I will drop another two, but I am getting headers very very soon so I am going to wait until after them to get it tuned.

well I must say you both throwing me for a loop, I never have seen the replies you both have given in regards to the vararam. Sure it sounds right about a tune won't hurt, but for just adding the Vararam, it sounds like a waste of at least $500....take a look at my post on the subject along with more importantly, the reply's. Just some more info to add to this subject.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=2012018

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Originally Posted by M1Cruiser
Just picked up a 2002 A4 with 3,100 miles and I'm looking at adding a Vararam B2. Question - will I need a tune? I know that a tune will pick up additional HP but I'm just trying to get started for now. Also, I know it's a slippery slope.

You do not need a tune for the for the Vararam to work, but like stated
by Bill it will throw off your fuel trim . The PCM allows for a +/-25% long
term fuel trim and as long as these are maintained no codes will pop up,
but the closer to a negative value the better

If you got money burning a hole in your pocket go ahead and have it
dialed in.
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You do not need a dyno tune for a basic bolt on car. Most people go with street tunes ranging from $150-$300. Retunes are often free or very cheap for new basic boltons from there on out.
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Old May 4, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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i drove a two seasons with my vararam without a tune. I did not do the tune until I added headers.
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Old May 4, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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Yeah, no tune needed. Maybe after doing some other mods, but don't let the paranoid types with too much cash on their hands fool you in to buying a tune with a simple intake.
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