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Old May 9, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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Can someone tell me what the pulses on the manual vehicle speed sensor are? Im assuming they are the same as a Camaro T56 ( 64000 PPM).

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The Corvette has the VSS located in the differential, not in the T-56 transmission. The VSS on a C5 Corvette sends 4000 (four thousand) pulses per mile.

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Not sure why you would be referencing the T-56 transmission as the Corvette's VSS is mounted to the differential and not the transmission, but according to the service manual:

Speedometer
"The IPC receives a 4000 pulse-per-mile Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) input over a dedicated input from the PCM. The PCM is responsible for processing the VSS data and sending it to the IPC."

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Thanks, I realize the sensor is mounted in the diff. I just thought they shared the same sensor as the T56 in a Camaro since the corvette tranny is basically a T56 ( correct? ). Are you sure this is the PPM for a manual trans? Is it the same as a automatic? If not, what is the PPM of an automatic?

Im trying to troubleshoot a resto-mod. Its a 55 chev with an LT5 and and 98 vette suspension. The motor will not engage the secondaries because it thinks the car is doing 250+ MPH even though its only doing about 60.

Its driving us crazy!!
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Not sure why you would be referencing the T-56 transmission as the Corvette's VSS is mounted to the differential and not the transmission, but according to the service manual:

Speedometer
"The IPC receives a 4000 pulse-per-mile Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) input over a dedicated input from the PCM. The PCM is responsible for processing the VSS data and sending it to the IPC."

HTH
So, the 4000 PPM sent to the IPC ( Im asuming this stands for Istrument panel computer?) is recieved from the PCM. Is this signal modified by the PCM? Does the PCM recieve a 4000 PPM signal from the VSS?
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Originally Posted by 65ZR1
Thanks, I realize the sensor is mounted in the diff. I just thought they shared the same sensor as the T56 in a Camaro since the corvette tranny is basically a T56 ( correct? ). Are you sure this is the PPM for a manual trans? Is it the same as a automatic? If not, what is the PPM of an automatic?

Im trying to troubleshoot a resto-mod. Its a 55 chev with an LT5 and and 98 vette suspension. The motor will not engage the secondaries because it thinks the car is doing 250+ MPH even though its only doing about 60.

Its driving us crazy!!
The C5 Corvette does use the T-56 tranny from TTC (formerly Tremec) as do cars such as the Viper, Aston Martin, and some models of the Mustang. ( http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/products/T-56.asp )

The Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) is located in the differential, and reads the speed at which the right hand axle is turning. The PCM "knows" the tire size ... so the PCM is responsible for actually "calculating" vehicle speed ..... if the VSS reports one revolution of the axle in one minute .... and the PCM is programmed to know that the tire size means that one revolution of the tire is (I'm exagerrating to make a point) equal to one mile ... then the PCM says "we covered one mile in one minute ..... that's 60 miles in 60 minutes .... tell the other systems on the car we are doing 60 MPH"

I suspect you need to either play with tire sizes in the PCM ... or how many pulses it expects for each turn of the axle ...... can't see what other parameters would mess you up ....

Good luck .....

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The sensor itself is the same for the C5 A4 or MM6 and the GM part number is: 12369458 and since the reluctor wheel on the ring gear comes with the gear and is not serviced separately I assume it to be the same too. Not positive on that point though.

The VSS signal is sent straight to the PCM, which in turn sends this info to the IPC. I'm not sure if the PCM program info is where the correct info (as far as gear ratio in the diff) is determined but I would think it would be.

As far as IPC it stands for Instrument Panel Cluster.
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My stock M6 tune, the VSS pulses per mile is set at 31027.3.


The IPC receives a constant 4000 pulse/mile input from the PCM. That is different than the VSS output pulse (which is adjustable).






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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
My stock M6 tune, the VSS pulses per mile is set at 31027.3.


The IPC receives a 4000 pulse/mile input from the PCM. That is different than the VSS output pulse.


Makes sense that the IPC would be getting a consistent signal in order for it to operate with the various gear ratios.

Question: Is the info in the PCM modifiable with a Tech II? I assume it would be. BTW, I did notice that the '97 and '98 each show a different (and only one is shown for each) PCM.
Another question I would have is what instrument cluster/speedo is being used?

Edit. Just saw your edit re: adjustability.

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