I don't think there is a fix????

I had the CLB in my car when it hit me.
The CLB had been in the car for, well, I would guess 2 years.
I still got struck with it!

This all happened to me during FunFest Last year.

My car ended up being towed to a local dealer there. Over a period of about 3 weeks they had it. They tried the GM fixes. Guess what.... They could not get it fixed!!!!

I had to go to there shop and use HP Tuners to flash out the Fuel cut off to even get it to drive again! they still charged me $300!!

I got a new CLB, hopeing that it would fix it. NADA!
I still get the messages on the DIC. I have found now that if i cycle the ignition about 3 times, the Pull key will go away, and then just get the Lock mesage. That message can be cleared, till the next start.

So WHERE IS THE FIX?

In my case I am thinking that I need a new BCM? Or whatever relay in there that sends this meassage?

 

The pull key wait 10 seconds message can be due to a dirty key resistor. Clean it with alcohol. If this doesn't work, try another key.

Low battery in car also cause column lock message. Check and charge or replace.

 

 

I've post in another forum and have a rare issue...yep "revove key for 10 seconds".....BUT!!!!! I purchased my 2000 c5 6spd vert in Sept of 2004 with 16500 miles NEVER a problem. Well.........the local detail shopp crashed it Oct 5th of last year. I had the "recall card" from GM good till feb 08 but didn't bring it in....it wasn't broke! Well, I drove the wrecked car back to the store I work at (after a LOT of yelling) and parked the car inside, a week later after their insurance adjuster looked at it, it was flatbedded to the body shop, when it came off the truck the body shop called and said "is there a trick to unlocking the steering?" Yep, column lock...it was towed back to the local chevy dealer and the recall was completed, the insutance company paid for it.....dont know why. Well I got the car back in January, went to pick it up, yep "remove key for 10 seconds". I had NO CLUE as to what that was. Got it home waited for the weather to clear and on a nice (Chicago burb day in Feb.) day took it back to the chevy store they had it for 5 days "can't find anything" was the verdict. Took it back home parked it in the garage and called the ins. company. FINALLY it got nice out, I took the car for a ride on a friday, romove key came on over and over but always started, the next morning (Sat.) revove key, I did, then the first time "column locked".....nothing worked, I had it towed back to chevey, after 2 days "can't find a code", well they unplugged the module before the checked the computer and couldnt get a code. 5 more days. Sooooooo I tried to see a pattern, if I leave the keys in the ignition, I NEVER get the remove key code, and randomly do when I take the key out, I am told it is possibly a ground issue??? Ya think?

 

yep just got mine back from gm it is good for know we will see what happens what a pain in the *** I must say

 

Everybody else not have this problem when key is left in the ignition?

 

How do U clear the "lock message"? I got lock out last weekend and tried the clearing the codes, pulling fuses and it wouldn't clear......HELP!!!!

 

I need to install my CLB this weekend. The whole "pull the key and wait 10 secs" sucks!

 

If you leave the key in the ignition the column lock will not try to activate into the locked position -- therefore, it won't cause an issue if it's unlocked and all is well. Guess one fix is to never remove the key.

 

If your only problem is the message? You just use the RESET on the DIC. That will clear the message.

Maybe I was unclear in my post. I do not have any locking of my steering wheel, and I have tuned out the fuel cut off. So my car starts drives, regardless of the messages.

I will get both pull key wait 10 sec, and the column lock message. The reset on the DIC will not get rid of the Pull key message. But, if I cycle the key 3 times before starting the car, the "pull key wait" will not set. I will just get the service colunm lock message. That message can be cleared with the reset on the DIC, and will not return untill a restart of the car.

 

How do you "tune out" the fuel cut off? The remove key is annoying but not as annoying as watching the car get loaded on a flat bed....

 

Have you checked for codes? On early year C5s, putting a CLB on may actually cause the pull key messages, although most people just remove the key, reinsert it, and take off.

 

Just for everyones info the new (August) issue of Vette Magazine has a an article on page 48 about steering columns locking.

RWP

 

Well, to start you need to be sure that the wheel does not lock, AKA the lock is unstalled, or unlocked, by whatever means you choose to use. Mine was unlocked when I did the CLB. Although I still eneded up with the problem down the road. Even though it is not locked, I still ended up with the messages. This made the car stall over 2mph.

I have HPTuners, so I just changed the cut off, I believe that EFI will also do it?
It should be located @System>General>Column Lock. There should be a place there to change the MPH that the fuel is cut off.

By all means be DANM sure that the wheel lock is disabled before doing this!!!!! AKA the wheel will move freely at all times!! Even with the car off and the key out!!!!

This will not do away with the messages, or at least have not on my car? As that is coming from the BCM, and you are only changing info in the PCM.

I am under the belief that mine actaed up do to a wet BCM? Not sure, and have not taken it out to check or clean all of it. That is something I need to do, just not had the time yet.

Hope this long post has helped?

 

After reading this thread, I bought and installed the CLB and cleaned the key pellet with rubbing alcahol and I STILL get the "Pull key for 10 secs." BS! It's driving me nuts!@#$

The only thing that works is when I initially put the key in the ignition, I have to turn the key partially and wait until the "security" light goes out. Then I can start my car with out getting the dreaded light.

 

I feel you pain!
As I have stated many times, I had the "CLB installed before" I had the problem.

That is why I feel that it lies in the BCM itself. I for one know that I have had a wet BCM. I also thought that it might be in the ignition/key. But, If that was the case I don't think the car would start at all? Maybe I am wrong on that? I would think if the ignition switch was bad it would not start, and the same if it was the key. I have had the same result with both keys I have.

My car sat at a GM dealer for 3 weeks last summer, (300 miles from home) as they tried to fix it. I was told that my car was not showing anything on there scanner, to even give them an idea. They tried the recall work.(which they took back out, and even kept my CLB!) Got it to drive one, or two times, and then it went right back, to the same old ****! I tried to get them to replace the BCM, but they would not do it. Why I have no BLEEPING idea?

I made the trip back up to there shop, flashed the PCM with the changes I mentioned above. Took me all of about 3 minutes to do, right there in there shop, as they watched. Presto, car ran just FINE! Still with the codes showing. But, it runs and drives, something they could not get it to do!!!!

AHHH, and they only charged $300. For what I have no clue? Guess it was for them storing the car for me? Even though it was covered in dust, and the interior parts/trim was misaligned!!!! I fixed all that later!

Man now I am upset over it all over again.. LOL!

 

Doubt it's caused by the CLB ... must be some other issue.

 

Yep that is my thinking.
I had the CLB when it hit.
Replaced with another CLB later on, Still the same here!
Mine could be do to a wet BCM? But others I am sure have not had that happen? Or they are not aware that they have?

So I still feel that it is all in the BCM, wet i would guess on my part. But others it may just be a BCM issue also. Even if they have not gotten wet, they could have issues.

Just my thinking, as that is the place that all of this is controlled from. As I said I hve not taken mine out, so i do not know what all is in there? Anyone have a pic of the inside of a BCM? It is a computer board right?

Are there cap's in it? I ask that as I do play with PC's on the side. And I know that many motherboards have had a history of bad /leaking cap's! This on a PC can cause many different problems.

The timeline on the cap's problems with PC's, would also be the same timeline as the C5 was built. Just a randonm thought there, as I said I have not looked at a BCM board.

 

Just got the car back last night.....they replaced the ignition cylindar, module and it still "acted up", they found the steering column to be bent from the accident.....replaced it and.......NO MORE "remove key"!!!