C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Stranded by Column lock...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 11:44 AM
  #1  
tbrent's Avatar
tbrent
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
Supporting Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,432
Likes: 74
From: KcMo.
2018 C5 of Year Winner
Default Stranded by Column lock...

So I am currently stuck at the fire station after being relieved 3 hours ago... I brought my '01 Z in to tinker with some things.... When I went to move her closer to the building in our parking lot... I turned the key and there it was... "Service Column lock"....

I just called a local dealership and asked the service guy to look up any recall work done... He stated that the reprogram was done 08-14-04. I asked if that included some sort of harness.. He said that manuals only got a reprogramming.

I have disconnected the battery, pulled fuse #23 and replaced it.. No dice... This column lock is determined to make me a statistic.

I guess even if I was lucky enough to get the wheel to unlock I can't unplug the motor because I have been reprogrammed if I am reading all the threads right.

I just figured if they did the recall work there was a new K harness envolved.. So aside from being flustered I am confused.

I currently have a couple emails sent to a couple forum members but am shooting in the dark in hopes some one might gander at this and have some knowledge to share I can use Aside from the fact that I need to send COH some money Thats on my list today!

Thanks fellas and have a good one.

Taryn
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 12:00 PM
  #2  
at88mph's Avatar
at88mph
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 21,766
Likes: 25
From: The artist formally known as NONO5.0 Mobile, Al
Default

Try pulling hard on the steering wheel to the left
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 12:26 PM
  #3  
tbrent's Avatar
tbrent
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
Supporting Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,432
Likes: 74
From: KcMo.
2018 C5 of Year Winner
Default

Just ran out and tried that Duke.. No go Thanks for the help though sir
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 12:56 PM
  #4  
at88mph's Avatar
at88mph
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 21,766
Likes: 25
From: The artist formally known as NONO5.0 Mobile, Al
Default

It took me QUITE a few tries but it finally worked for me eventually. I'm guessin you've already been through this thread:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1015483

I believe only the A4's got the harness installed on them. Since yours is a M12, the only thing the programming did was to shut off the fuel at 2 mph if you try to move the car

IF you do get the column to unlock, don't remove the key! Of course, order a CLB from www.corvettesofhouston.com. Good luck
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 01:00 PM
  #5  
Blu's Avatar
Blu
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,074
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte NC
Default

Try pulling fuse 23 the BCM and the reinsert it. Mine locked up last week and doing this unlocked it. Then I drove the car home and let it sit until I got the Corvettes of Houston CLB. It took about 20 mins from start to finish to install, so easy a caveman could do it!

Good luck!!!
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 01:46 PM
  #6  
tbrent's Avatar
tbrent
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
Supporting Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,432
Likes: 74
From: KcMo.
2018 C5 of Year Winner
Default

Thanks Blu I tried pulling #23.. Same result.... Guess Ill try the wheel yank a bit more Duke...


I read the bulletin and it said something about the lock plate being pulled during recall in the revised Feb. 2006 bulletin. My '01 was reprogrammed in the summer of '04 before the 04006B revision in November and then the 04006C in Feb.

Reply
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 09:06 PM
  #7  
tbrent's Avatar
tbrent
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
Supporting Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,432
Likes: 74
From: KcMo.
2018 C5 of Year Winner
Default

Cscokd sent me an email today while I was loitering at the fire station. After being relieved 7 hours prior I went out and took my new friends advice... I inserted my key, worked the steering wheel with some force(trying not to yank it out of the dash from frustration then turned key and wallah! The worm gear did its thing and John(Cscokd)saved the day!

Thanks to all that helped try to bail out the dumb fireman!

The CLB is on the way!

Taryn P.
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 09:20 PM
  #8  
at88mph's Avatar
at88mph
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 21,766
Likes: 25
From: The artist formally known as NONO5.0 Mobile, Al
Default

Good to hear ya got it squared away! Just don't take out the key if ya can help it
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 09:40 PM
  #9  
phils C5 vette's Avatar
phils C5 vette
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 8,003
Likes: 249
From: Tampa Fl
St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14
Default

Id like to say welcome to the VIP club, But your not. Your just a C5 owner and another stat of the dreaded Column lock hit.

Do yourself a favor, It's going to come back again. So while your unlocked, Dont drive the car if you dont have to and order the bypass kit.

I got away with it unlocking it three times before I ran out of luck because I didnt think my car could be a victim lol
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2008 | 10:00 PM
  #10  
av8or's Avatar
av8or
Racer
Veteran: Air Force
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 335
Likes: 34
From: Lincoln Nebraska
Default

Originally Posted by Blu
It took about 20 mins from start to finish to install, so easy a caveman could do it!
If you're young, limber, small, and don't wear bifocals, MAYBE you can do it in 20 minutes. I know you're smart enough 'cause in your avitar you're wearing a Red Sox cap. Did mine earlier this week with the Corvettes of Houston CLB. My advice is to toss the directions from COH and use the following:

http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=24

Good luck....
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2008 | 01:06 AM
  #11  
NEILZVETTE's Avatar
NEILZVETTE
Racer
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 363
Likes: 0
From: Granville Illinois
Default

Just had my 97 with 55K do it Tuesday,I tried all the tricks to no avail. Towed it to dealer and they good willed it as it had shown that the recall was done a few years back at another staelership but guess what....it hadn't been after they got in there. Got to wonder what other recalls were "done" also.Thought about calling GM and having the rest of the recalls inspected!
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2008 | 06:54 AM
  #12  
phils C5 vette's Avatar
phils C5 vette
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 8,003
Likes: 249
From: Tampa Fl
St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14
Default

For a side note, My column locked three years after the recall repair from the dealer was done

It took me about 30-40 mintues to install. It wasnt easy for me either to go upside down to get under the dash
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2008 | 07:26 AM
  #13  
MovOva's Avatar
MovOva
Instructor
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
From: Corpus Christi TX
Default

Good to hear you got it worked out for now.
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2008 | 10:15 AM
  #14  
bigjohn23's Avatar
bigjohn23
Racer
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
From: Atoka Okla
Default

Order mine 6 months ago and it laid on my desk for 6 months, went out this week and put it on, I am 66 and it took may be 30 mins to install.
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2008 | 11:50 AM
  #15  
TEXHAWK0's Avatar
TEXHAWK0
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,847
Likes: 795
From: Longview Texas
Default

Originally Posted by tbrent
Cscokd sent me an email today while I was loitering at the fire station. After being relieved 7 hours prior I went out and took my new friends advice... I inserted my key, worked the steering wheel with some force(trying not to yank it out of the dash from frustration then turned key and wallah! The worm gear did its thing and John(Cscokd)saved the day!

Thanks to all that helped try to bail out the dumb fireman!

The CLB is on the way!

Taryn P.
The last recall also included removing the lockplate, even on manuals. You might want to do that so at least you do not have to deal with a locked column.
You could still have a problem with the harness relay failing, but you will be able to turn the wheel. (although if the dealer is correct, you do not even have the recall that installed the bypass harness)
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2008 | 11:43 AM
  #16  
tbrent's Avatar
tbrent
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
Supporting Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,432
Likes: 74
From: KcMo.
2018 C5 of Year Winner
Default

Wait... so even the manual tranny C5's were supposed to get a relay harness AND the lock plate removed???

Thanks all for help, suggestions and 411 on the bypass install! I really appreciate it
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2008 | 12:56 PM
  #17  
av8or's Avatar
av8or
Racer
Veteran: Air Force
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 335
Likes: 34
From: Lincoln Nebraska
Default

Juat install your CLB when it gets there, and drive the car. Should be all you have to do.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Stranded by Column lock...

Old Jul 6, 2008 | 09:49 PM
  #18  
LitlRedVertVette's Avatar
LitlRedVertVette
Heel & Toe
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Default

I just had the same thing happen to me I think. The only difference is that I had the recall done on my 2000 C5 about a year ago and ever since; my steering wheel would occasionally lock up at slow speeds while turning the wheel(sounds crazy right?) for example pulling into a driveway or parking spot. It would break free right away and didn't happen that often.
Yesterday, I got the message "Service Column Lock" and my car shuts off every 3ft if I try to drive it.
Will that CLB help me too?
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2008 | 10:07 AM
  #19  
LitlRedVertVette's Avatar
LitlRedVertVette
Heel & Toe
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks for the Advise.
Since mine is a 2000 w/automatic tranny, that means my car is an A4 and I probably have that "K" harness installed right???
Do I have to find that harness and remove it when I put the CLB in?

Thanks Again!
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2008 | 10:45 AM
  #20  
jovette's Avatar
jovette
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,172
Likes: 104
From: Des Moines Iowa
Default

Originally Posted by LitlRedVertVette
Thanks for the Advise.
Since mine is a 2000 w/automatic tranny, that means my car is an A4 and I probably have that "K" harness installed right???
Do I have to find that harness and remove it when I put the CLB in?

Thanks Again!
I have a 2000 A4, that had K Harness installed during a dealer performed recall, which included removal of the steering wheel locking plate, and then failed, less than 500 miles later. I removed the K Harness, and pulled the fuses and reinstalled them, and the car started and ran fine. I ordered the CLB, from Thunder Racing and installed the CLB as soon as it came in the mail. That was over two years ago, and I haven't had a column lock problem / issue since then
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:29 AM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE