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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Hi, I had a dealer remove the CL pin because my car had the column lock problem. Will this cause me to always get the Remove Key error? Should I put the pin back?

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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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Why would the dealer remove the pin when they could just remove the lockplate? Are you sure the pin has been removed?
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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How can I find out if the Pin is still there and the lock plate is gone?
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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Why did you tell the dealer to remove the pin ????

Why did the dealer not simply perform the "standard" fix for the column lock issue and remove the lock plate ????

Is the car currently generating a "PULL KEY WAIT 10 SECONDS' message ????

Who is dumber .... you or the dealer ?????

Check for DTC codes .........

If you don't know how to do it go here ....

https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti...D=26&TopicID=1

When the AUTOMATIC display completes it will enter MANUAL mode. In that mode display and write down what codes you have.

A code looks like this ...... P 1234 C

The first letter will be either a P, B, C, or U ..... indicating which system the code is for.

The following 4 numbers are the code

The last letter will be a C or an H (sometimes both).

Post the ENTIRE code (as in the example ..... P1234C), and list ALL the codes found.

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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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Sorry I should rephrase my sentance. I did not tell the dealer to.. I believe that is what they told me they did. They may have said they removed the locking plate and not the pin. I am constantly getting the Pull Key Wait 10 seconds error along with service column lock.

These are the codes I am getting (but I believe this is caused by my ebcm which I am going to get absfixer to fix).
28-TCS C1214 HC
40-BCM B2587 H
40-BCM B2592 H
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MIBagentR
Sorry I should rephrase my sentance. I did not tell the dealer to.. I believe that is what they told me they did. They may have said they removed the locking plate and not the pin. I am constantly getting the Pull Key Wait 10 seconds error along with service column lock.

These are the codes I am getting (but I believe this is caused by my ebcm which I am going to get absfixer to fix).
28-TCS C1214 HC
40-BCM B2587 H
40-BCM B2592 H
OK, you might be smarter than the dealer ......

The C1214 is a problem that absfixer can address. As you may be aware, check first that the electrical grounds for the EBCM are good before sending the EBCM to absfixer. If the grounds are bad then Brandon at absfixer won't be able to resolve the problem. Search (Advanced) on my user ID or "Bill Curlee" and C1214 for more information on the grounds.

The other two codes (B2587 and B2592) are classic "column lock" codes.

What is the status of the car now ??? Can you start it ??? Can you drive it faster than 2 MPH (that's not a joke question ... on some cars the column lock error causes a fuel cut-off at 2 MPH) ???

Do you have a "Column Lock Bypass" (CLB) installed or available ???

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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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The car is just getting the Pull Key wait 10 seconds each time I start the car... when I remove the key, I don't get the message again.

I get the service column lock everytime I start the car.

I do have a column lock installed but I am not sure if it is working correctly.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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Have you tried complaining to the dealer that "fixed" your car? To answer your original question - that's not supposed to be happening.
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I seriously doubt the dealer would do anything other than what was in the recall, so if the column does not lock, the lockplate is probably removed.
IF you can turn your wheel with the ignition off, and you hear the actuator cycle, then the lockplate has probably been removed, and a bypass relay harness installed.
You could always remove the panel below the steering column and just see what is installed. To see if the relay is bad, you can try removing the relay harness and reconnecting the factory connector back to the actuator. If the error goes away, the relay is either bad or going bad.

You may have two things going on. The Pull key message may be a security problem. You might try cleaning the key resistor. The service column lock would be tied to a bad relay or actuator.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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I found out what the problem was. I needed to connect the two pins on the relay near the BCM - this got rid of the message

Thanks for all the help!
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