C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Software Updates

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 14, 2008 | 10:57 PM
  #1  
Choreo's Avatar
Choreo
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 6,774
Likes: 361
From: Midland TX
Default Software Updates

As I understand it is possible to update (flash?) the PCM with more recent software updates. Is there a way to find out if a more recent version has been released for the 2001 LS1 A4? Is there a listing? Do we know what these updates affect and how?

Is this data held in some type of Ram or micro-drive?
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:06 AM
  #2  
BlackZ06's Avatar
BlackZ06
Safety Car
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 4,933
Likes: 30
From: San Rafael CA
Default

Originally Posted by Choreo
As I understand it is possible to update (flash?) the PCM with more recent software updates. Is there a way to find out if a more recent version has been released for the 2001 LS1 A4? Is there a listing? Do we know what these updates affect and how?

Is this data held in some type of Ram or micro-drive?
Go here .....

http://service.gm.com/index_en-US.html

Select TIS

Select Vehicle Calibration Information

Enter your VIN

You can now view all of the "updates" that apply to your car. Some may have already been applied (such as the 04006 recall update has probably been applied) others may not.

ALL of the updates you see listed will be applied if you have the dealer re-flash the PCM.

The way it works is this .... the technician (tech) hooks a Tech2 to your car and specifies that he wants to re-flash the PCM. The Tech2 reads and stores your VIN. The tech then disconnects from your car and connects the Tech2 to a PC that has special software that supports the Tech2 and is connected to TIS. The PC tells TIS your VIN and asks for a reflash. The TIS then looks up info about your car (it knows if you have an automatic or a manual tranny, for example) including all updates for your car. Once TIS has assembled the correct software it downloads it to the PC, which then downloads it to the Tech2. The tech then connects the Tech2 to your car and ALL the correct software is loaded to your PCM.

If you do this, I would not worry about ever doing it again ... the chances that GM will add a "fix" for a C5 problem in the future are about the same as the chance that John Edwards will win the nomination in Denver ..... notgonnahappen.com .... (with thanks to http://www.autoextremist.com )

Reply
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 02:53 PM
  #3  
DeltaBravo's Avatar
DeltaBravo
Instructor
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 239
Likes: 2
From: Georgetown TX
Default

Any chance this could screw something up? Cummins has the same capability for their diesels, and a few years ago folks were going in for service on their RVs and the dealer "flashed" the module and the engine was then derated to the new, lower HP rating. I don't want to take that chance, even tho the car is bone stock.
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:09 PM
  #4  
BlackZ06's Avatar
BlackZ06
Safety Car
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 4,933
Likes: 30
From: San Rafael CA
Default

Originally Posted by DeltaBravo
Any chance this could screw something up? Cummins has the same capability for their diesels, and a few years ago folks were going in for service on their RVs and the dealer "flashed" the module and the engine was then derated to the new, lower HP rating. I don't want to take that chance, even tho the car is bone stock.
Some folks who have bought their Corvette used are concerned that the PCM may have been "altered" by a previous owner, and they want the car "stock". Having the dealer re-flash the PCM is the quickest and easiest way to do this.

While a re-flash could certainly de-rate an engine I haven't seen or heard of that happening with a Corvette. If you go to that page I posted above and plug in your VIN you will see that there are only a handful of "changes" since the car left the factory, and are basically for things like altering the sensitivity of the fuel sender algorithm (reduces the chance of a FALSE "Low Fuel" warning) or applying the column lock recall. Basically that "Operating System" is what was loaded to the car at the factory. All the rest are "fixes", most (or all) of which should have been applied by your dealer at various times.

I believe most dealers charge about $100.00 for a PCM re-flash. Unless you have a good reason to do it .... there is no need to "waste" the money.

Reply
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 06:41 PM
  #5  
phils C5 vette's Avatar
phils C5 vette
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 8,003
Likes: 248
From: Tampa Fl
St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14
Default

Can the dealer pdate my PCM with RTT (Real Time Tuning) that was installed on some 2000s and some without.

That would be the only update I would want
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:26 PM
  #6  
BlackZ06's Avatar
BlackZ06
Safety Car
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 4,933
Likes: 30
From: San Rafael CA
Default

Originally Posted by phils C5 vette
Can the dealer pdate my PCM with RTT (Real Time Tuning) that was installed on some 2000s and some without.

That would be the only update I would want
The dealer could "turn on" RTD (Real Time Damping) by using a Tech2 to alter the RPO list in the Body Control Module (BCM). The PCM knows nothing about RTD ....

However .....

That's not all you would need .... you need the RTD shocks, the RTD controller, the suspension position sensors, the RTD switch on the console, and all the wiring for the system. You could get the F55 upgrade kit which would get you the shocks and controller for about $3,000 ... the wiring, suspension position sensors, and console switch would all have to be added on .... I'm gonna estimate at list price you'd be looking at $5,000 just in parts to install RTD on a car that didn't have it from the factory.

It would be a better deal to sell your car and buy one with the F45 (RTD) suspension, or get a 2003 or 2004 with the newer F55 (MSRC) system.

Reply
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 08:38 PM
  #7  
Choreo's Avatar
Choreo
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 6,774
Likes: 361
From: Midland TX
Default

Originally Posted by BlackZ06
Go here .....
Awesome!

Just wish they listed the dates that the various update were posted. That way I would know that if updates had been posted after my last visit to the Dealership that my car would be missing those. Oh well.
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:27 PM
  #8  
phils C5 vette's Avatar
phils C5 vette
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 8,003
Likes: 248
From: Tampa Fl
St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14
Default

RTT not RTD

Real time tuning not real time damping
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 10:07 PM
  #9  
dgrant3830's Avatar
dgrant3830
Tech Contributor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 10,962
Likes: 29
From: Van Buren Arkansas
Wounded Warrior Escort '11
Default

I had the firmware updates put into the '99 that I had to solve issues with the fuel indicator as well as other problems. The on-board computers are runing software that is stored in the firmware and just like any computer program that you get updates for, the car's computers need their fixes too. If the dealer programs in the correct updates, then there should be no issue for the car itself.
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 10:29 PM
  #10  
'VETTE PHASE's Avatar
'VETTE PHASE
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,167
Likes: 11
From: Powell TN
Cruise-In VIII Veteran
Default

Originally Posted by phils C5 vette
RTT not RTD

Real time tuning not real time damping
Real time tuning is part of HP Tuners software and allows you to tune certain things while the car is running.
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 10:36 PM
  #11  
clayton1's Avatar
clayton1
Banned Scam/Spammer
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,285
Likes: 3
From: Fort St John B.C
Default

There a little more to it than just hooking up the tech 2 tool after connecting to the PC and getting the update.

You need tool J-42336 , its a box with a dial, a switch and two star connectors coming out of it.
Remove pass foot panel and will see the two connectors to the left of the module, one has 8 or 9 wires, they other has 4. They have a cover on them, remove.
Star connector #1 goes to the one with 8 or 9 wires, #2 star to the one with 4 wires. Set the switch to #1 and put the dial on 'B'. Now you can go ahead with the tech two.
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2008 | 12:35 AM
  #12  
DeltaBravo's Avatar
DeltaBravo
Instructor
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 239
Likes: 2
From: Georgetown TX
Default

I pulled the update list and have about 20, with several of them replacing multiple other updates. So, I guess I need to talk to my dealer and see what's what. Just don't want to mess up a great running car! Thanks to all!

Dennis
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2008 | 12:57 AM
  #13  
rare-72's Avatar
rare-72
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 401
Likes: 0
From: Down in the west Texas town of El Paso TX
Default

Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Here is something that just happened to a 99 C5 owner. His car had never had the GM recall that relates to the Column Lock. Owner wanted the shift point updates applied to his car ( Automatic). The Dealer did the reflash and that included the fuel shutoff mod being set to 2MPH. A few weeks later he encounters the Column lock error except the column doesn't lock. BUT he can't drive the car because the BCM thinks the column is locked and shuts off fuel at 2mph.


Unless there is something you absolutely need I would not have the latest software applied. I' pretty sure that the design of applying updates was developed by MicroSoft for GM and we all know how great software updates from Bill Gates are.........:rof l:
That would be me.:o Now for the good news, the CLB got here today! I'm installing it early Sunday morning. The Vette is our Sunday go to breakfast car, and wifey drives while I . Thanks again for all your help.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Software Updates





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:42 PM.

story-0
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-20 17:58:41


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-7
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE