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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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HOW are they guyz? anyone got some on the car right now? what kind of hp and tQ they puttin out?

also how are the 215cc? which is the best 220cc or 215cc?

Trickflow CNC Ported 215cc
Trick Flow GenX (TM) Street/Strip CNC-Ported Cylinder Heads for GM LS Engines
Cylinder Head, GenX Street/ Strip CNC, Aluminum, Assembled, 64cc Chamber, 215cc Intake Runner, GM, LS, Pair

Cylinder Head Style: Assembled
Cylinder Head Material: Aluminum
Cylinder Head Finish: Natural
Combustion Chamber Volume (cc): 64
CNC-Machined Combustion Chamber: Yes
Intake Runner Volume (cc): 215cc
Exhaust Runner Volume (cc): 80cc
CNC-Machined Intake Runner: Yes
CNC-Machined Exhaust Runner: Yes
Intake Port Shape: Cathedral
Intake Port Location: Standard
Exhaust Port Shape: Oval
Exhaust Port Location: Standard
Intake Valves Included: Yes
Intake Valve Diameter (in): 2.040 in.
Exhaust Valves Included: Yes
Exhaust Valve Diameter (in): 1.575 in.
Valve Springs Included: Yes
Maximum Valve Lift (in): 0.600 in.
Outside Diameter of Outer Spring (in): 1.300 in.
Damper Spring Included: No
Number of Springs Per Valve: Dual
Retainers Included: Yes
Retainer Material: Titanium
Locks Included: Yes
Lock Style: 7 degree
Valve Stem Seals Included: Yes
Valve Stem Seal Style: Viton® fluoroelastomer
Rocker Arm Studs Included: No
Rocker Arms Included: No
Rocker Arm Nuts Included: No
Guideplates Included: No
Valve Cover Mounting Style: Centerbolt
Accessory Bolt Holes Drilled: Yes
Intake Valve Angle: 13.5
Exhaust Valve Angle: 13.5
Valve Guides Included: Yes
Valve Guide Material: Bronze
Valve Seats Machined: Yes
Valve Seat Machine Style: 3-angle
Valve Seat Material: Ductile iron
Steam Holes Drilled: No
Oiling Style: Through pushrod
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Base SKU:TFS-3060T001-C01
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Price: $2,385.95

Trickflow CNC Ported 225cc
Trick Flow GenX (TM) Street/Strip CNC-Ported Cylinder Heads for GM LS Engines
Cylinder Head, GenX Street/ Strip CNC, Aluminum, Assembled, 65cc Chamber, 225cc Intake Runner, GM, LS, Pair

Cylinder Head Style: Assembled
Cylinder Head Material: Aluminum
Cylinder Head Finish: Natural
Combustion Chamber Volume (cc): 65
CNC-Machined Combustion Chamber: Yes
Intake Runner Volume (cc): 225cc
Exhaust Runner Volume (cc): 80cc
CNC-Machined Intake Runner: Yes
CNC-Machined Exhaust Runner: Yes
Intake Port Shape: Cathedral
Intake Port Location: Standard
Exhaust Port Shape: Oval
Exhaust Port Location: Standard
Intake Valves Included: Yes
Intake Valve Diameter (in): 2.055 in.
Exhaust Valves Included: Yes
Exhaust Valve Diameter (in): 1.575 in.
Valve Springs Included: Yes
Maximum Valve Lift (in): 0.600 in.
Outside Diameter of Outer Spring (in): 1.300 in.
Damper Spring Included: No
Number of Springs Per Valve: Dual
Retainers Included: Yes
Retainer Material: Titanium
Locks Included: Yes
Lock Style: 7 degree
Valve Stem Seals Included: Yes
Valve Stem Seal Style: Viton® fluoroelastomer
Rocker Arm Studs Included: No
Rocker Arms Included: No
Rocker Arm Nuts Included: No
Guideplates Included: No
Valve Cover Mounting Style: Centerbolt
Accessory Bolt Holes Drilled: Yes
Intake Valve Angle: 13.5
Exhaust Valve Angle: 13.5
Valve Guides Included: Yes
Valve Guide Material: Bronze
Valve Seats Machined: Yes
Valve Seat Machine Style: 3-angle
Valve Seat Material: Ductile iron
Steam Holes Drilled: No
Oiling Style: Through pushrod
Machined for O-Ring: No
Heat Crossover: No
Quantity: Sold as a pair.
Notes: Must be used with roller rocker arms.


Base SKU:TFS-3060T001-C02
In Stock:Yes
Price: $2,385.95
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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If you're using a stock 3.9" shortblock, I'd go with the 215s. The 225s may be designed to work with a larger bore. Call TEA (Total Engine Airflow) They do all the machine work for TFS heads. Tell them your combo, and overall plan. They can advise you on cam selection/ CC volume, and even give you a better price than advertised. They're great guys to work with.
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If you're using a stock 3.9" shortblock, I'd go with the 215s. The 225s may be designed to work with a larger bore. Call TEA (Total Engine Airflow) They do all the machine work for TFS heads. Tell them your combo, and overall plan. They can advise you on cam selection/ CC volume, and even give you a better price than advertised. They're great guys to work with.
well i already got cam
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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well i already got cam


No problem, just tell them what your cam's specs are, and how you're gonna use the car, ex. street, street/ strip, road racing, etc. Don't get the out of the box heads, regardless of brand. You should mill them to optimize your DCR, and the cam has alot to do with this.
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Originally Posted by zeevette
No problem, just tell them what your cam's specs are, and how you're gonna use the car, ex. street, street/ strip, road racing, etc. Don't get the out of the box heads, regardless of brand. You should mill them to optimize your DCR, and the cam has alot to do with this.
yea buddy! my cam is really big and got my 3600 vigilante stall. but do u use these heads? what how much hp and tq u get out of them?

and who i call bout the heads?whats the number
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 12:30 AM
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when you say big, is it bigger than the vindicator cam?: 240/244 608/598 112
that being said with the right combo you can be around 500 at the rear tires.

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yea buddy! my cam is really big and got my 3600 vigilante stall. but do u use these heads? what how much hp and tq u get out of them?

and who i call bout the heads?whats the number
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 05:27 AM
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Yeah, read my sig. My numbers aren't current. I've added a EWP, and the clutch crapped out on the dyno, but it did get 477/429 corrected. You've got an auto, so if you do have a big cam, I hope you've got gears, too.
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when you say big, is it bigger than the vindicator cam?: 240/244 608/598 112
that being said with the right combo you can be around 500 at the rear tires.

http://www.totalengineairflow.com/

Phone: 330-634-2155
hahaha yea buddy its bigger then that hahah its the megadeath cam 244/ 242 610/ 612 112 hahah

u ur tellin me wit that cam and them trickflow heads ill be a like 500hp???? whats the number for?
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Yeah, read my sig. My numbers aren't current. I've added a EWP, and the clutch crapped out on the dyno, but it did get 477/429 corrected. You've got an auto, so if you do have a big cam, I hope you've got gears, too.
ummm sorry but whats EWP??? umm no gears what size u think i should get? 373? want to pull out hole hard also its a ever day driver vette
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ummm sorry but whats EWP??? umm no gears what size u think i should get? 373? want to pull out hole hard also its a ever day driver vette
EWP = Electric Water Pump
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EWP = Electric Water Pump
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ummm sorry but whats EWP??? umm no gears what size u think i should get? 373? want to pull out hole hard also its a ever day driver vette

From another post and not my list except for ADDING EWP

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ummm sorry but whats EWP??? umm no gears what size u think i should get? 373? want to pull out hole hard also its a ever day driver vette

I'm not an automatic guy, but with your stall, and wanting to keep it street, I wouldn't go higher(numerically) than 3.90s. The really big cam you've chosen will not be the best choice, IMO. If you're building a fast, mostly street driven 'Vette, that cam's gonna be hard to live with, even with an expert tune. Of course, you know you have to flycut your pistons with that cam. TFS, and ETP heads will give you more PTV clearance, but you're pushing your luck if you don't do a PTV test.

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Originally Posted by zeevette
I'm not an automatic guy, but with your stall, and wanting to keep it street, I wouldn't go higher(numerically) than 3.90s. The really big cam you've chosen will not be the best choice, IMO. If you're building a fast, mostly street driven 'Vette, that cam's gonna be hard to live with, even with an expert tune.
what do u mean hard to live with and also i was thinkin of 373 gears
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Originally Posted by megac5
what do u mean hard to live with and also i was thinkin of 373 gears

You're going to have to set your idle quite high to keep from stalling. The smell of partially burnt gas is gonna drive you crazy, even with cats, which, BTW, won't last too long. It'll be a bit of a dog when driven at street levels, until the revs are up. And finally, without all of the supporting breathing mods, your power would be in a very narrow powerband, bias toward the topend.

This is the formula I'd use, if I had an automatic, god forbid.

Assuming the stock shortblock..... AFR 205s, milled to 59cc, with a LG G5X-2 cam@114+4, which wouldn't require flycutting, and if budget allows, ported FAST90/92, with 373s. The result would be a very fast, fun car, that'll require a little patience in daily stop and go, but worth it for the increase in performance.
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Originally Posted by zeevette
You're going to have to set your idle quite high to keep from stalling. The smell of partially burnt gas is gonna drive you crazy, even with cats, which, BTW, won't last too long. It'll be a bit of a dog when driven at street levels, until the revs are up. And finally, without all of the supporting breathing mods, your power would be in a very narrow powerband, bias toward the topend.

This is the formula I'd use, if I had an automatic, god forbid.

Assuming the stock shortblock..... AFR 205s, milled to 59cc, with a LG G5X-2 cam@114+4, which wouldn't require flycutting, and if budget allows, ported FAST90/92, with 373s. The result would be a very fast, fun car, that'll require a little patience in daily stop and go, but worth it for the increase in performance.
how do u kno i have to fly cut the pistons? haha cuz i bet u i dont
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Originally Posted by megac5
how do u kno i have to fly cut the pistons? haha cuz i bet u i dont

Only when your cam is in and set at the proper angle with the heads on you can measure the clearance. Using the right amount of moddeling clay and SLOWLY turning the motor until they either hit or smush the clay. Than measure the clay. .080 Exhaust .100 intake Minimum clearance.. Or Vice Versa?

Or roll the dice and CRANK IT>>>>>>
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Originally Posted by megac5
how do u kno i have to fly cut the pistons? haha cuz i bet u i dont

Just read this,

hahaha yea buddy its bigger then that hahah its the megadeath cam 244/ 242 610/ 612 112 hahah


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Only when your cam is in and set at the proper angle with the heads on you can measure the clearance. Using the right amount of moddeling clay and SLOWLY turning the motor until they either hit or smush the clay. Than measure the clay. .080 Exhaust .100 intake Minimum clearance.. Or Vice Versa?

Or roll the dice and CRANK IT>>>>>>
yea! well i order the cam from chuck at hpe and he knos his **** dso im not worryd the biggest cam witout pistion fly cutting
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yea! well i order the cam from chuck at hpe and he knos his **** dso im not worryd the biggest cam witout pistion fly cutting
you putting this in yourself?
If i did it again i would go with a tad smaller cam than what i went with and mine is a 6sp with the M12 trans....my cam 236 238 i have heads with lil more compression so im assuming my low end would be a lil worse with stock heads
how come i dont ever see you around?
btw i prob wouldnt say that i wish i went with a tad smaller cam if i didnt have to drive the car to work every day
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