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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by willyfastz
Like I said buddy I only posted that pick to show you we have done the very thing you'er trying to do. I only started out answering your question. Then in PM I told you we don't give out free cam specs and told you what the cams cost. Which seems to have ****'ed you off, O well.

Again, good luck with the car.
You didn't **** me off... I was just surprised. I didnt realize you built custom spec cams. Being that I am running a LSX carb... not many people have run this type of setup... being a LS3 stroker... and using AFR 205 heads with 3500 stall and 3.36 gears.

I was just trying to get some ideas of what other people were running in there cars... even though they will not have the same setup as me. Once again ... not trying to be JOHN FORCE... Just want a Legit Ride.

I wanna go faster... low 11s and drive it. That makes me as fast as any thing you can buy from a dealer today.

Believe me I was happy to hear that somebody had a Stroker with a Victor Jr. I just wanted to compare.

No harm Brother... willyz

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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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I would be more concerned with the converter at this point. The intake is going to knock the midrange right outta that thing. A 3500 converter probably will make it a turd outta the hole.

Additionally, I would venture to say all the different 500 rwhp+ cars posted by Tony WERE NOT Victor Jr equipped. Tony will tell you just as anyone else, the intake changes the setup completely.

This is where COMBINATION comes into question. The 205s are good for low end and midrange on the bigger motors. The cam may be decent, but just being hydraulic roller, will run out before 7 grand, unless you use all light weight components. The intake is made for higher RPMs, and will come into it's own at the top of the head flow, and towards the end of the valve train's limits.

The converter probably isn't near high enough. May be good for the street, but under full load, on the strip, with good traction, will probably make the car a mutt.

But, what do I know? Only been in and around drag racing for 25 years. Only tuned on everything from bracket cars to top sportsman to top alcohol funny cars. This ain't a TSP bash. It's not a camshaft bash. I'm not trying to sell anything. Just my .02

All that being said, you'll probably run your low 11 high 10. These days you can run that all day with a combination that's less than optimal.
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by holley505
and using AFR 205 heads with 3500 stall and 3.36 gears.
That reiterates my post about combination. Sounds like you're trying to have your cake and eat it too.

I would venture to say, with the converter, that gear, and that intake, the car will be a dog.

You'll end up making some pretty big changes to it sooner rather than later.
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by holley505
I didn't know ***** until this thread.
William is one of the good guys here...Knows his stuff and is pretty much BS free.
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by holley505
Brother I asked for advise. I did not realize I was speaking to a guru. (willyz)
Ok....

Originally Posted by holley505
It doesn't say sponser or cams for sale in his signature?
Because he doesn't sponsor the site, its not allowed. A lot of people don't even know about some of the best in the business because they don't plaster their names all over car forums to generate business. They get business from referrals from real racers not internet fan boys.

Originally Posted by holley505
If I posted how to change my headlight OR what headlight should I use as a replacement? OR what headlight do you use? etc... what cam spec you recommend or what cam specs do you run ... etc

you get my point?

That's what these forums are for... to share information about something we all like and enjoy.

I didn't know ***** until this thread.
One again you can't advertise you expertise or experience unless you sponsor the site. A lot of people learn the hard way that in the end you get what you pay for. That doesn't mean the cheapest is always the cheapest or the most expensive is the best either.
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by willyfastz
He also has an engine straight from Jeff Gordons car in his shop (in his back yard), that will be going in his grand sons round track car here very soon.
We've got Connolly's '06 roller car sitting in our show-room. That doesn't make us pro-stock experts
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1
That reiterates my post about combination. Sounds like you're trying to have your cake and eat it too.

I would venture to say, with the converter, that gear, and that intake, the car will be a dog.

You'll end up making some pretty big changes to it sooner rather than later.
Bottom line...
So you think I will not run my number... and the car will be a dog?
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by holley505
Bottom line...
So you think I will not run my number... and the car will be a dog?
You got a good chance of running low 11s. Will it run what it should? Probably not. Not enough converter or gear. Too heavy of a car for the gear. Not enough midrange for the converter.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1
You got a good chance of running low 11s. Will it run what it should? Probably not. Not enough converter or gear. Too heavy of a car for the gear. Not enough midrange for the converter.
I didnt think 3150lbs is heavy...

not to be rude... but lets just see how the car runs before people start bashing it to DEATH !!!
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by holley505
I didnt think 3150lbs is heavy...

not to be rude... but lets just see how the car runs before people start bashing it to DEATH !!!
Goodluck with the setup. You know how to getem' stirred up with your questions. You probably don't realize all the history here. Alot of agendas as well.
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by holley505
You didn't **** me off... I was just surprised. I didnt realize you built custom spec cams. Being that I am running a LSX carb... not many people have run this type of setup... being a LS3 stroker... and using AFR 205 heads with 3500 stall and 3.36 gears.

I was just trying to get some ideas of what other people were running in there cars... even though they will not have the same setup as me. Once again ... not trying to be JOHN FORCE... Just want a Legit Ride.

I wanna go faster... low 11s and drive it. That makes me as fast as any thing you can buy from a dealer today.

Believe me I was happy to hear that somebody had a Stroker with a Victor Jr. I just wanted to compare.

No harm Brother... willyz

He doesn't spec custom sized cams. He will ask Bret to spec the custom size cam, mean while willyz specs out Bret's cam. IMO, these 2 follow the whole internet bashing TSP.
Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Sean at some point man ya just have to build your car the way you want and let everyone else talk. This is the exact reason why most people don't post on boards because there is always some who could have done it better, and are smarter than what you are doing. At the end of the day it is your car with your goals. I think you have made the right choices with the budget you are on with the car you have. Could the motor have had better midrange? Yes. Could it have better peak numbers? Yes. Could it be lighter? Yes. Could it be heavier? Yes. Could it have more compression? Yes. Could have built a solid roller? Yes. Could you run a 5000+ stall speed converter. Yes. Could you put a 4.56 gear in the car? Yes. Could you have put a bigger head on the motor? Yes. What I'm getting at is there are a million yes you could have done it different and built a several thousand dollar motor to run faster and built a tube chassis car and run God knows how fast. But the thing is, you built this combo for YOUR goals w/ the budget you set out to spend. IMO, that is the right way to build your car. I'm confident you will be right where you want to be. You set out to build a street/strip car that you can enjoy any time you please and I think you have spent your money wisely in doing exactly that.

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