Trans, Diff, torque tube questions?
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12'-'13-'14-'15
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I'm sure you either sheared a rear axle or the mainshaft in the tranny. You may not see a bunch of metal if sheared clean.
It should not be very difficult to figure out.
I highly doubt that you ripped the sprocket out of the clutch disc, but who knows.
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The inspection cover is in the bell housing, not the torque tube.
I'm sure you either sheared a rear axle or the mainshaft in the tranny. You may not see a bunch of metal if sheared clean.
It should not be very difficult to figure out.
I highly doubt that you ripped the sprocket out of the clutch disc, but who knows.
I'm sure you either sheared a rear axle or the mainshaft in the tranny. You may not see a bunch of metal if sheared clean.
It should not be very difficult to figure out.
I highly doubt that you ripped the sprocket out of the clutch disc, but who knows.
I have held the front of the tranny shaft and tried to turn the other end, does not turn.
What about clutch packs? Could that cause the symptoms I described? I REALLY appreciate all your help.
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St. Jude Donor '08
I dont know exact terms, this is my first time doing anything like this. I meant that I spun the assembly under the rear cover on the diff and all shafts spun freely with noise or issue.
I have held the front of the tranny shaft and tried to turn the other end, does not turn.
What about clutch packs? Could that cause the symptoms I described? I REALLY appreciate all your help.
I have held the front of the tranny shaft and tried to turn the other end, does not turn.
What about clutch packs? Could that cause the symptoms I described? I REALLY appreciate all your help.
You said there was no debris in the differential or fluid, so I doubt it is a clutch pack.
When you turn the axles on each side look in the differential to see if the gear is moving ?
If not, there is your problem.
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pass. side
pass. side output shaft is a good possiblity ,both sides break should of done both sides , and then trans main and tail shaft , and then the dte brace , and they still break , like all strong parts inside diff and trans and the diff. still will explods it always finds the weakest link .its just a matter of time , and how hard you drive 
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pass. side output shaft is a good possiblity ,both sides break should of done both sides , and then trans main and tail shaft , and then the dte brace , and they still break , like all strong parts inside diff and trans and the diff. still will explods it always finds the weakest link .its just a matter of time , and how hard you drive
I talked to Cajun earlier tonight and I think he either smoked his clutch or the clutch packs in his differential.
He power braked his car in the burn-out box using slicks (he does not have a line lock) and I think he toasted the clutch disc or the diff packs by holding down the brake pedal and doing the burn-out.
He was moving down the track and basically just lost the connection of his drivetrain slowly until there was no more grip, which is why I think it's the clutch or differential packs.
Don't think anything busted, just slipping like a **** to the point where a 3200 pound car will not move.
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Here is the latest update. Looks like the clutch. There is basically no friction material left on the clutch plate after 900 street miles (break in), two street tire 1/4 mile runs and one drag radial 1/4 mile run. The torque tube bushing near the trans was also jacked up pretty badly so will replace with a billet bushing.
I cant believe the clutch ate $h!t like this. I am not going to say the name of the manufacturer until I contact them and see what they say. I am just glad I FINALLY found out what was wrong. Thanks for all the help guys.
Cajun
I cant believe the clutch ate $h!t like this. I am not going to say the name of the manufacturer until I contact them and see what they say. I am just glad I FINALLY found out what was wrong. Thanks for all the help guys.
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He power braked his car in the burn-out box using slicks (he does not have a line lock) and I think he toasted the clutch disc or the diff packs by holding down the brake pedal and doing the burn-out.
He was moving down the track and basically just lost the connection of his drivetrain slowly until there was no more grip, which is why I think it's the clutch or differential packs.
Don't think anything busted, just slipping like a **** to the point where a 3200 pound car will not move.
He was moving down the track and basically just lost the connection of his drivetrain slowly until there was no more grip, which is why I think it's the clutch or differential packs.
Don't think anything busted, just slipping like a **** to the point where a 3200 pound car will not move.
No offense, but that's part of the reason your clutch looks the way it does.. Time for a new one!!! I'd probably look at another brand if it were me, but then I'm sure you are
.Good luck, glad you found what it was, and keep us posted!
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So a couple burnouts holding the brake pedal can eat a $1000 clutch plate? If that is the case then maybe I just need to get a stock clutch and give up racing. I know other people who do it all the time with no issue whatsoever. Maybe I am just an idiot
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St. Jude Donor '08
Buy a line lock for $100 and save your self a lot of aggravation.
Also check out your rear calipers and brake pads as you may have screwed them up too, from all of the heat.
I have a new in the box Textralia that you can have for $750 shiped. "X" Grip model.
Tony
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Hey Cajun,
Buy a line lock for $100 and save your self a lot of aggravation.
Also check out your rear calipers and brake pads as you may have screwed them up too, from all of the heat.
I have a new in the box Textralia that you can have for $750 shiped. "X" Grip model.
Tony
Buy a line lock for $100 and save your self a lot of aggravation.
Also check out your rear calipers and brake pads as you may have screwed them up too, from all of the heat.
I have a new in the box Textralia that you can have for $750 shiped. "X" Grip model.
Tony
My rear calipers and brake pads look perfect. I know you really know your stuff but are you absolutely sure that two burnouts holding the brake pedal for 5-7 seconds at a time could eat a clutch up like this? It just seems really weird to me that many other M6/M12 vette owners I know do it and have NEVER burnt up their clutches after many runs. It is just kind of strange to me but maybe I am missing something?
I will get a line lock and there is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL I will get a Textralia X grip (read between the lines on that).
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BTW I have talked to two other driveline experts including a GM tech and they both told me that there is no way two burnouts holding the brake did that. They both think that the clutch plate was not fully coming off of the flywheel causing it to eat up the clutch plate. Who knows
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My rear calipers and brake pads look perfect. I know you really know your stuff but are you absolutely sure that two burnouts holding the brake pedal for 5-7 seconds at a time could eat a clutch up like this? It just seems really weird to me that many other M6/M12 vette owners I know do it and have NEVER burnt up their clutches after many runs. It is just kind of strange to me but maybe I am missing something?
I will get a line lock and there is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL I will get a Textralia X grip (read between the lines on that).
Cajun
I will get a line lock and there is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL I will get a Textralia X grip (read between the lines on that).
Cajun
I hear you on the clutch, and know how you feel.That looks like a lot more than 15 seconds worth of burn-out to me. A lot of drag guys like the McLeod Twin but they're pricey at $1,500 bucks, the other flavor of the month is new SPEC III Twin. Somebody was doing a GP over in the for sale section.
Let me know if you need help.
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BTW I have talked to two other driveline experts including a GM tech and they both told me that there is no way two burnouts holding the brake did that. They both think that the clutch plate was not fully coming off of the flywheel causing it to eat up the clutch plate. Who knows
Since that wasn't the case, I think that theory is incorrect.
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Well then they are idiots like me. Who cares, the clutch is fried, either the company that made it will back it up or they wont.
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Wish you were closer, I would come by and give ya a hand. Hopefully, you'll get some relief from them for all of your pain and suffering.
Clutch jobs suck.
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Didn't mean you were an idiot- just suggesting you buy a line lock
I don't think the two burnouts would have DONE that, but it didn't HELP either, that's all. I'm sure you'll get it sorted and back to the strip soon!
I don't think the two burnouts would have DONE that, but it didn't HELP either, that's all. I'm sure you'll get it sorted and back to the strip soon!
