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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Installed a set of C5 Fog lights, and then installed HID 6000K lights in the fog lights, and then HID 6000K lights into the low beam head lights. WOW what a big difference ! I'm comparing to the Silverstars too ! The silverstars are YELLOW big time compared to this setup ! I can only imagine how it would compare to stock....

Total cost for C5 fog lights, and all HID hardware was $423 everything in . I got the C5 fog lights, console button, wiring harness, brackets etc... from a scrap yard. All the HID setups were fron that auction site. Please PM me for more details if your interested.

Its not too bad to do really.....

I first installed the fog lamp button in the dash. It was easy to pop out and snap in the new one. Once the button was in, and you have the head lights on you can press the fog light button and it should light up the LED in the button, and you should hear a "CLICK" from under the hood.

Then I installed the 2x factory C5 fog lamps with some mounting HW I got at Lowes (see below). I then ran the 2 seperate purple wires from each fog lamp to the purple wire under relay #39. Be sure not to cut the purple wire because it leads from the fuse box to the relay inside the car (your little light on the fog lamp button will not light up if you clip the purple wire)(don't bother asking how I know this ). Just solder the two purple leads from the fog lamps to the purple wire under relay #39. Use electrical tape or heat shrink and secure/isolate the conection.

Lifting the fuse box to get under it is a bit of a pain, and you don't have too much room at all to work. I removed the shroud around the battery/fuse box to give me some elbow room. You will have to try to pull a bit on the wiring harnesses to get some slack. Just be careful with it and you should not have any issues.

In theory you could run a single wire from the purple wire in the fuse box to one lamp, then one wire from that lamp to the other lamp. I just chose to do it the same way the factory did it.... Just in case it was done like that for a specific reason. I suspect each lamp was run seperately so that you would not over current a single wire and melt it.

I then ran the 2x black GND wires from the fog lamps and connected them to the GND block over the passenger wheel inside the engine bay.

I then used the black plastic wire wrap that I got at Lowes to cover the wiring all the way from the fog lamps to the fuse box. I tie wrapped it along the way to secure it. I also tried to hide it so its not seen. The parts of the wire wrap that you can see it still looks like stock because it looks like the wire wrap that the factory harnesses use.

I have not had a chance to drive it yet, but I hope to this weekend

Here are some pics...

Wiring schematic


Stock wiring harness from scrap yard. What a mess this was


Fog harness striped from old C5 harness. Speed clips and screws from Lowes


Close up of speed clips from Lowes


Speed clip installed.


Stock C5 fog light installed.


Stock C5 Fog lights on. What a horrible yellow glow....


HID 6000k - 9006 (HID Low Beam) and 899 lights (HID Fog lamps).


Input plug into HID unit is like factory connector.


Mounted both HID units under the brake cooling duct. Duct moved to the side so you can see one of the boxes mounted.


Brake cooling duct moved to standard position. You can't even see the boxes under the duct.


6000K HID low beams on, and 6000K HID fog lights on.


ONLY the 6000K HID fog lights on.


HID 6000K Low beams, and HID 6000K Fogs shining on the wall


HID 6000K Low beams ONLY


HID 6000K Fogs ONLY (took some work to get them to match up like that.


Silverstar high beams. I can't believe how YELLOW the silverstars are. The pic can not show how big a difference there is !



Please feel free to ask any questions.

Toque

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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Looks great Do you care to P.M. Me the venders name and cost? Thanks
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:39 AM
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It's amazing how much brighter the low beams are compared to the fog lights. It must be the size of the reflector? I had both fogs and low beam HID's on my last car(RX7) and I could barely noticed the difference at night. Not much gain at all.

But they sure looked cool
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:06 AM
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pics posted to the thread for easier viewing.

Originally Posted by Toque
Guys:

Installed a set of C5 Fog lights, and then installed HID 6000K lights in the fog lights, and then HID 6000K lights into the low beam head lights. WOW what a big difference ! I'm comparing to the Silverstars too ! The silverstars are YELLOW big time compared to this setup ! I can only imagine how it would compare to stock....

Total cost for C5 fog lights, and all HID hardware was $423 everything in . I got the C5 fog lights, console button, wiring harness, brackets etc... from a scrap yard. All the HID setups from an Ebay vendor.

I have not had a chance to drive it yet, but I hope to this weekend

Here are some pics...

Wiring schematic


Stock wiring harness from scrap yard. What a mess this was


Fog harness striped from old C5 harness. Speed clips and screws from Lowes


Close up of speed clips from Lowes


Speed clip installed.


Stock C5 fog light installed.


Stock C5 Fog lights on. What a horrible yellow glow....


HID 6000k - 9006 and 899 lights (low beam/fog lamps).


Input plug into HID unit is like factory connector.


Mounted both HID units on top of each other and to top of front brake cooling duct.


6000K HID low beams on, and 6000K HID fog lights on.


ONLY the 6000K HID fog lights on.


HID 6000K Low beams, and HID 6000K Fogs shining on the wall


HID 6000K Low beams ONLY


HID 6000K Fogs ONLY (took some work to get them to match up like that.


Silverstar high beams. I can't believe how YELLOW the silverstars are. The pic can not show how big a difference there is !


Please feel free to ask any questions.

Toque



great job, btw.

i'm also going to go with 6000k D1S replacement bulbs for my ACA HID's pretty soon.

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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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Guys:

I went for a cruise tonight, and I am absolutely SHOCKED ! These are the BOMB !!! Turning on the high beam "Silverstars" is light driving with your lights off in comparison ! Its actually scary turning on the high beams after driving with the HID's. I will never go back to stock lighting again. There is no shaking, or flickering. Its perfect ! The light coverage is really good ! Its even better than my GTI with stock HID's !

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Head on HID low beams and Fog Lamps



HID Fog lights only



HID Fog lights only



HID Low Beams only



HID fog lamps, and HID low beams - Side angle



HID fog lamps only - Over the top of the car



HID low beams only - Over the top of the car



HID fog lamps, and HID low beams - Over the top of the car



SilverStar high beams - Over the top of the car. It is HORRIBLE !



SilverStar high beams - Over the top of the car. It is HORRIBLE !



HID fog lamps, and HID low beams - Side view



HID fog lamps, and HID low beams - Over the top

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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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I found that mounting the 2x boxes on top of the brake cooling duct was too much weight. I found last night that while driving, the passenger brake duct pulled away from its slot. Today I mounted the 2x boxes under the brake cooling duct. It looks better now, and will be much more stable. You can't even see the boxes now under the duct

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Mounted both HID units under the brake cooling duct. Duct moved to the side so you can see one of the boxes mounted.



Brake cooling duct moved to standard position. You can't even see the boxes under the duct.

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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 12:59 AM
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good call.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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Wow, everything looks excellent! Thanks for taking all the time to write everything up, take so many comparison photos, etc.

I've got a burned out PIAA foglamp, trying to decide if I want to spring for a $40 replacement or do a serious upgrade like this.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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screw replacing the PIAAs. go for the HIDs!

you'll need to wrangle up some factory housings w/brackets, though.

hit up Gene @ genekarshop.com for a set.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmvette
screw replacing the PIAAs. go for the HIDs!

you'll need to wrangle up some factory housings w/brackets, though.

hit up Gene @ genekarshop.com for a set.
Can I use my generic brackets and just score the housing? I understand I can't use the PIAA as they're a proprietary design.

I'd love to reuse my brackets and wiring (?)

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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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do your brackets look like my old ones?



it's the silver one with the 2 holes in it.

if it does, it will not work. also, the PIAAs are too narrow to fit onto the OEM fog light body.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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Yes is does, shoot. Oh well, I suppose there's some market for the 1/2 operating 1100X's?

Thanks for the assistance!

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