Caged question
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Caged question
I would like to install a cage on my 04Z. Has anybody had a non-vette shop do this. We have a shop over here that is pretty popular but he builds real race cars ,he has 4 5 6 second cars in their.He never gave me a feeling that he couldn't do it just told me he never done one. A 6 point with 2 swing doors using 1 3/4 under $2,000.
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Dave,
It shouldn't be a problem as long as he understands how a Vette is laid out. You can always call the Vette Doctors in Amityville. At one point, they were having some one else do their cage work. They can give you that number or if they are doing the work themselves, have them do it.
It shouldn't be a problem as long as he understands how a Vette is laid out. You can always call the Vette Doctors in Amityville. At one point, they were having some one else do their cage work. They can give you that number or if they are doing the work themselves, have them do it.
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Dave,
It shouldn't be a problem as long as he understands how a Vette is laid out. You can always call the Vette Doctors in Amityville. At one point, they were having some one else do their cage work. They can give you that number or if they are doing the work themselves, have them do it.
It shouldn't be a problem as long as he understands how a Vette is laid out. You can always call the Vette Doctors in Amityville. At one point, they were having some one else do their cage work. They can give you that number or if they are doing the work themselves, have them do it.
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I will, I can almost guarantee they use this comp. Montana Bros. is the name and I personally know a dozen guys who's cars were built by them. And they are pretty local to them,they have a shop in Bay Shore and Pt.Jeff Sta. Do you know if you bolt or weld in the bars?
EDIT: Here is a decent summary of the NHRA rules.
http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...legal_Roll_Bar
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I don't have a roll bar. It is something I am debating at this point, but I did some research a while ago and talked to a couple of people. It is my understanding that they can be either welded or bolted to the frame of the vette.
EDIT: Here is a decent summary of the NHRA rules.
http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...legal_Roll_Bar
EDIT: Here is a decent summary of the NHRA rules.
http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...legal_Roll_Bar
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The only issue I have with a full cage Vs. a 6 point is the close proximity of the bars and your head. A track only car where you are always wearing a helmet is great. Even padded bars are going to kill you with the right impact.
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I would like to install a cage on my 04Z. Has anybody had a non-vette shop do this. We have a shop over here that is pretty popular but he builds real race cars ,he has 4 5 6 second cars in their.He never gave me a feeling that he couldn't do it just told me he never done one. A 6 point with 2 swing doors using 1 3/4 under $2,000.
There was post on here not too long ago about a vette owner who got sideswiped by a truck. Got his head split open when his head hit one of cage rails in his car.
Just something to think about.
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^^Are you going to drive the car on the street with a cage? I am not sure if you are aware that there are some safety issues involved if you do that. If you get into an accident and your unprotected head or other body part hits the cage you could get seriously hurt.
There was post on here not too long ago about a vette owner who got sideswiped by a truck. Got his head split open when his head hit one of cage rails in his car.
Just something to think about.
There was post on here not too long ago about a vette owner who got sideswiped by a truck. Got his head split open when his head hit one of cage rails in his car.
Just something to think about.
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My C5 vert has a Wolfe 6 point and has rediculas head contact points. I AM building one that will require removal for using the top UP but my PEA brain deserves the chance to survive impact without a helmet. 
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I would like to install a cage on my 04Z. Has anybody had a non-vette shop do this. We have a shop over here that is pretty popular but he builds real race cars ,he has 4 5 6 second cars in their.He never gave me a feeling that he couldn't do it just told me he never done one. A 6 point with 2 swing doors using 1 3/4 under $2,000.
Roll bar is good to 10.00 & 134.99 mph, faster than that you need a cage, license, etc.
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why? the extra cost? as the same issues of cranial contact exist only the bar weighs less My C5 vert has a Wolfe 6 point and has rediculas head contact points. I AM building one that will require removal for using the top UP but my PEA brain deserves the chance to survive impact without a helmet.
My C5 vert has a Wolfe 6 point and has rediculas head contact points. I AM building one that will require removal for using the top UP but my PEA brain deserves the chance to survive impact without a helmet. 
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why? the extra cost? as the same issues of cranial contact exist only the bar weighs less My C5 vert has a Wolfe 6 point and has rediculas head contact points. I AM building one that will require removal for using the top UP but my PEA brain deserves the chance to survive impact without a helmet.
My C5 vert has a Wolfe 6 point and has rediculas head contact points. I AM building one that will require removal for using the top UP but my PEA brain deserves the chance to survive impact without a helmet.
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I too had thought about putting in some kind of rollbar or cage into my car, which is street driven, but after reading about the safety issues decided not to go that route.
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^^I did not say that to be a jerk. The driver I mentioned in my post only got his head bashed and that was due to the cage. Rest of him was okay.
I too had thought about putting in some kind of rollbar or cage into my car, which is street driven, but after reading about the safety issues decided not to go that route.
I too had thought about putting in some kind of rollbar or cage into my car, which is street driven, but after reading about the safety issues decided not to go that route.
I am sure that they will agree with you and eleminate the roll bar - cage specifications from their rule books.Properly installed roll bars and cages are not safety issues....they are safety equipment items that may save your life one day!
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Thanks for that info. I only want a 5 or6 point so if I want to go to a track day, I can go and run the hell out of my car and not worry about getting kicked off the track or worse hitting a wall. The car has 581 rwhp so it has the potential to be somewere in the 10's. Do you need a roll bar for private rental?