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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:21 AM
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I had a C5 on a lift this weekend to reinstall the torque tube, trans rear and dif. When installing the half shafts into the diff I couldn’t get them to pop all the way into the diff.

There was about a half inch of shiny material showing between the diff housing and the housing for the CV joint. I will have my friend look at them today to see if they corrected themselves.

Since there was no load on the suspension as it was in the air would this cause this to happen?
The car drives fine and there are no leaks. Just curious.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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Give them a good hard push. There is a snap ring on output spline in the differential. If they still don't go in I would check the snap ring to make sure it is still in it's groove. The suspention may need a load to get enough travel in axle while pushing or you could loosen axle nut in the center of the rotor I guess if all else fails.

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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Thanks for the info.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Noga
I had a C5 on a lift this weekend to reinstall the torque tube, trans rear and dif. When installing the half shafts into the diff I couldn’t get them to pop all the way into the diff.

There was about a half inch of shiny material showing between the diff housing and the housing for the CV joint. I will have my friend look at them today to see if they corrected themselves.

Since there was no load on the suspension as it was in the air would this cause this to happen?
The car drives fine and there are no leaks. Just curious.
Thanks!!
Uhh .. don't drive it like that first of all.

CV joints will lengthen and shorten as the suspension travels which is the only reason you were still able to drive. Normally when you go to replace them, you want the outboard end free from the hub. Then you can push it in straight, collapse the joint, and maybe beat the end of it a little with a rubber mallet. Sometimes those snap rings put up a good fight, but it'll go in.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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maybe beat the end of it a little with a rubber mallet.
The good old rubber mallet.. LOL. I've used that mallet more on this car than any other car I’ve worked on. I will make sure that I pound them in this week.. The car is not going anywhere as it’s parked in the garage. Track car only.
When we were putting it back together the owner said it’s been like that since a company failed to fix the broken bolt in the torque tube.
I knew that it didn’t seem right at the time but I didn’t second question it. But after this company failed to fix the original problem it brought up the second thought.
Thanks for verifying my concern and providing the info to fix it!
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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You will still be able to see a little of the input shaft where it goes in (it should be less than a half inch)

Take the shaft by the end where the nut goes and in one fluid action push it up on the shaft quicky it should lock in, if it doesn't, don't beat on it, take it back off and put some bearing grease on the lock wire to stick it in place.

If it still doesn't want to go get a big dead blow (rubber hamer filled with sand ) and tap it in. I put the nut on and take up all the slack and one tap and they are on.

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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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don't beat on it

...get a big dead blow (rubber hamer filled with sand ) and tap it in
make up your mind

You can beat on them fairly hard without damage. They're very beefy pieces those joints. What you want to avoid is collapsing the joint by beating on it. That's how you can hurt things. It's easiest if you have 2 people ... one to hold things down/in and the other to beat on it. But I've installed them alone plenty of times. Lean into it and tap away.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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You will still be able to see a little of the input shaft where it goes in (it should be less than a half inch)
That is about how much is showing 1/2" on each half shaft. During the install I do remember them being a bit tough to get in but they seemed to get to a point not go any further. I will see if I can get a picture of them and maybe we can have visual verification.

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LOL "ok then I should say dont beat on it with a shop hammer".

And mine stick out a bit as well.
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LOL "ok then I should say dont beat on it with a shop hammer".

And mine stick out a bit as well.
Oh ok, I thought you were correcting me. I suggested a rubber mallet as well.

I just slid under my car and checked. I can't see any input shaft at all. The joint housing kind of tapers off and disappears into the diff housing. At the most there's ~1/4" between the joint and diff. There should be some clearance, but 1/2" is way too much. And I really don't think you should be able to see the actual shaft.

Keep pushing and tapping. You'll know when it's home. It'll *pop* in.

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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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joint housing kind of tapers off and disappears into the diff housing. At the most there's ~1/4"
Excellent and thank you for looking that is just as good as a picture. I figured that would be the case. The car will be back on the lift next week and the axles will be fitted correctly.
Thanks for all of the help everyone!
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